Snowpiercer = Willy Wonka Sequel? (Rhino Stew followup)


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  • Marie Winter
    Marie Winter 15 minutes ago

    Ahh the proper place to be at 4am

  • Nomadic Kong
    Nomadic Kong  13 hours ago

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  • Scott Taylor
    Scott Taylor 13 hours ago +2

    I also commented this on the other video, but the machines in both movies are equally showboaty, over-engineered to portray extravagance on top of their efficiency. We can't JUST make chocolate, we need to have it flow past as a river. We can't JUST raise fish, we need to have a walk-in aquarium car complete with inedible Manta Rays.

  • fatima diallo
    fatima diallo 15 hours ago +1

    I still can’t get over that other video now there’s this one too lol. I ain’t even mad though cuz this is amazing

  • Dee Dee Joseph
    Dee Dee Joseph Day ago +1

    It's 2:15AM this theory is really getting to me. It's a very bizarre and fun theory. With so many connections linking to the stories it's hard to think that it's not so far of a stretch

  • Jake Condemn
    Jake Condemn Day ago +1

    I want snowpiercer 2

  • Pablo Aguilar
    Pablo Aguilar Day ago +2

    This is a fun theory! I'd love a confirmation by now from both parties.

  • Maria Pattison
    Maria Pattison Day ago

    i can't say for sure whether i fully believe this theory... but your video brings up interesting points! even if it is all coincidence, props to you for finding so much evidence and creating a fun fascinating video with it! i like to imagine that even if it's not a direct sequel, snowpiercer is somewhat of a spiritual sequel to willy wonka. thanks for sharing it w us!

    EBBCO REPAIRS Day ago +1

    After a lot of research, Snowpiercer is definitely a child of someone who really liked Willy Wonka and what it could have become. But not a sequel. Probably going to catch a copy write case.

  • Snappa
    Snappa Day ago +4

    I feel snowpiercer was probably inspired by Willy wonka but I don’t believe both are related.

    • Prism Volt
      Prism Volt Day ago

      Yeah, I view more as a dark, violent homage.

  • Wigoo W
    Wigoo W 2 days ago +2

    This whole Wonkapiercer theory and especially your video are prime examples of confirmation bias. It's all pure coincidence. If you want to find links between any two things, you will find them. It is true that both movies share some similar themes, but so do a dozen others. Hiding various objects or messages in food items for example is a pretty common theme. Think of fortune cookies, files in cakes or messages on a gum wrapper. The latter even fits the candy criterium. Same for the music: So many soundtracks feature similar notes and chord progressions.
    The only rather interesting argument is Oompa Loompas powering the perpetuum mobile.

  • Salt Miner
    Salt Miner 2 days ago +1

    1k channel, 100k content.

  • trolling life
    trolling life 2 days ago +3

    Ill say this man machinery doesnt go extinct child sized orange men do...

    • AJ Clark
      AJ Clark 23 hours ago +1

      Oompa loompas cannot survive in cold weather

    • Flux_Time
      Flux_Time 2 days ago +1

      +Bolek Lolek oompa loompas

    • Bolek Lolek
      Bolek Lolek 2 days ago

      was that a trump joke? 😂

  • You Don't Want To Know Me

    It could have been willy piercer or snow willy

  • Ben Shapiro’s Greasy Cock

    The whole scarf thing is a stretch, especially considering that there’s literally a top hat literally on top of it.

  • Jacqui G
    Jacqui G 3 days ago +1

    Admittedly i haven't watched Snowpiercer yet, but I liked the original theory. But this just blows the other one away. The music for sure and I like where you went with the ending.

  • Emjoria
    Emjoria 3 days ago +1

    The motif with the music is very convincing.

  • MrBeast
    MrBeast 3 days ago +2

    You spelled of wrong at 7:40. It's spelled as oof.

  • James TV Gaming
    James TV Gaming 3 days ago +1

    This makes me realise that Boon is a genius

  • Greg Robinette
    Greg Robinette 3 days ago +5

    I also just noticed the pregnant teachers dress in snowpiercer is nearly identical to the pattern of the flavored wallpaper in Charlie and the chocolate factory

    • Greg Robinette
      Greg Robinette 3 days ago +1

      8:43 is the best look

    • Greg Robinette
      Greg Robinette 3 days ago +1

      +Nomadic Kong its a standard floral print but it has all the same colors, and a downward cascading pattern, maybe not identical but damn close at a glance

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  3 days ago

      Ha, excellent observation! I'll check that out - thanks! :D

  • Min Yoonji
    Min Yoonji 4 days ago +6

    and oompa loompas die in cold temperatures

  • Janski 14
    Janski 14 4 days ago +7

    this video be like "hey i see a brown object in the dark, it must be the _BRIGHT RED SCARF_ "

    GARUGAMESH 4 days ago +4

    You'll hurt yourself reaching this hard. At this point you're just seeing what you want to see. That's obviously not a scarf, dumbass, your imagination put it there. You're watering down the original theory which was pretty solid and well researched with this made up bullshit.

  • Nick
    Nick 4 days ago +2

    there are flaws in this theory...all your elements only shows that snowpiercer just take the element from Willy Wonka bcus u told that Charlie equal to Curtis.If it is the sequel,it should be Charlie equal to William and the bucket should be shown up whenever Willian name come up not Curtis.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  3 days ago +1

      Wilford is meant to be Charlie grown up, but I think that Curtis and Timmy are Charlie Bucket analogues (they go through a similar plot progression from poverty to (potential) food factory ownership over the course of both movies. Did a bit more about the bucket thing in he latest vid - check it out!

  • James Younger
    James Younger 4 days ago +1

    Lol cocaines a helluva drug!

  • radseven89
    radseven89 4 days ago +1

    So in this theory why does Mike TV go from Right-handed to Left-handed?

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  4 days ago +2

      +radseven89 Since I put this video out, I've found it so fascinating how different people respond to it - I've learnt a lot from different people noticing details I completely overlooked (like this gun thing!). You're right that it seems a very deliberate casting choice...
      It may just be because Chris Evans is right-handed, and they wanted to have someone opposite. In the scene where they are shooting at each other through the windows, there is lots of mirroring. One shoots, the other shoots, one reloads, the other reloads etc... One of the themes in the movie is keeping things in balance. So visually it becomes more dynamic and varied if they are firing/and reloading with opposite hands (that mirror-image idea). That scene is a weird sort of fulcrum at the middle of the movie, where these two forces (Curtis/Franco) are opposing each other, one wanting change, one wanting stasis. It may be one of those things where they wanted to prioritise the visuals, and the Wonka thing was less important.
      There's also a video I found very interesting by 'Every Frame A Painting' where they discus the symbolisms of left vs. right in Snowpiercer - - you should check it out! :)

    • radseven89
      radseven89 4 days ago

      ​+Nomadic Kong Guns are my hobby so I always pay attention to gun related things in movies and this movie I have to say is pretty accurate with the way they handle the guns. It just seemed like a deliberate casting choice to choose a left handed person for the role of guy who is really good at shooting when they only make up 10% of the population. I do believe your theory about him being reassembled wrong is interesting though. Perhaps he was assembled backwards and that in some way affected his mental state as well.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  4 days ago +1

      Great spot though! I didn't notice that, and the thing about him firing a left-handed gun (to avoid the cartridges going in his face) is very interesting! :D

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  4 days ago +1

      +radseven89 Just checked the movies - while you only see Mike shoot right-handed, he does always wear a gun holster on each hip - so presumably he was able to shoot with both hands? Also you see Franco the Elder pick up things with the right hand (scissors/knife) so you could argue that he is ambidextrous?
      I think it could just be for cinematic (or maybe just casting) reasons - Curtis is right handed, so it makes their show-downs a bit more epic in terms of the framing of the shots when they are shooting at each other. There's also that centuries old thing of heroes entering from the right of the theatre stage, and villains from the left (sinister means left-handed in Latin, dextrous means right-handed), so it highlights the whole hero/villain thing a bit more maybe.
      Also Vlad Ivanov (who played Franco) is nearly 20 years younger than Ed Harris - so the theory definitely has some places where it doesn't hang together exactly - but also, as I think it was probably an entirely unofficial sequel/remake, there's a lot of creative license taken in places (it's more in the spirit/story of the previous movie than an exact sync-up). Maybe he's meant to actually be the son of Mike? :D

    • radseven89
      radseven89 4 days ago

      +Nomadic Kong It seems like a pretty glaring piece of evidence against that specific part of the theory. Also when he and curtis are trying to shoot each other during the trains turn scene, Mike TV fires (and carries) his rifle left handed. Now there would be no good reason to be firing a right handed rifle, left handed at that point, the empty cartridges would be flying into your face.

  • Liquidated
    Liquidated 4 days ago +3

    Not a far stretch to have a director/screenwriter being a big fan of a classic book/film.

  • Madison
    Madison 5 days ago +6

    *Film Theory wants to know your location*

  • pianist150
    pianist150 5 days ago +6

    I'll never forgive you 2 for actually convincing me of this

  • Communism Blyat
    Communism Blyat 5 days ago +1

    Willy willy wanker

  • pixel ·
    pixel · 5 days ago +1

    This is high quality content man🥰👍

  • fantasia243645
    fantasia243645 5 days ago +1

    Wow, what a great analysis of the film. Ain't that something though one person makes a difference. The author's publisher (one person) postponed a positive image of Black childhood which is such a shame. This director is something else though. I will have to look at his previous films. Thank you for the insight Kong.

  • Ray Hoo
    Ray Hoo 6 days ago +2

    Sequel? it's more like just a copycat. Enough said!

  • Brad Regan
    Brad Regan 6 days ago +5

    this is stupid lol way too much of a strech... oOoooooo look theres a coat that looks nothing like wonkers coat but its a coaaat!!! woooahh.. lol comon

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  4 days ago

      Lol - but also saying that, check out the new video I've just released if you haven't already:
      There's actually a shot of Wonka cooking what looks like exactly the same coat.. I think if this theory is true, then the designer's of Snowpiercer may have given that shot as a reference for Curtis' coat, but see what you think! :D

    • Will Edwards
      Will Edwards 5 days ago

      This is part two, picking out semantics, and that's only one

  • Random Taco
    Random Taco 6 days ago +5

    uhm... i thought it was a joke.. WAS THIS NOT A JOKE!!?!?!?!

    • Mark D
      Mark D 6 days ago

      Random Taco Definitely not a joke

  • Mr Odin
    Mr Odin 6 days ago +10

    when i saw rhinos first video title i thought it was a joke, then he got me seriously doubting myself, and now your video has filled in the blanks and convinced me fully :D
    well done you two are great detectives !
    but maybe the writer of Snowpiercer didnt make it a sequal, but more made the movie into a homage to willy wonka

  • Chad
    Chad 6 days ago +3

    Hey, there's a rabbit hole here. Maybe I'll just take a quick look...

  • Rheo Milvus
    Rheo Milvus 6 days ago +10

    I'm glad USclip recommendations are working properly for once. Got recommended Rhino stews' video and this back-to-back and I'm completely sold on the theory

  • Frank James
    Frank James 6 days ago +1

    We can't have everyone saying this until Matpat says it's correct

    • Ahh Ah animates
      Ahh Ah animates 5 days ago

      Frank James
      He’s too busy playing Undertale and FNAF on his shitty streaming channel where he plays bad games.

  • James Chung
    James Chung 7 days ago +6

    LOL this is as postmodern as it gets.

  • CrudeConduct666
    CrudeConduct666 7 days ago +8

    You guys are doing what I call, stretttttcchhhhingggg

  • Muthana Hussain
    Muthana Hussain 7 days ago +4

    Literally anyone who believes in this is just. Grasping at straws

    • Muthana Hussain
      Muthana Hussain 2 days ago

      +E W i did

    • E W
      E W 2 days ago

      Muthana Hussain watch the first video and you will be convinced too

  • Rizzle Dizzle
    Rizzle Dizzle 7 days ago +4

    nail in the coffin!

  • Backstage Bum
    Backstage Bum 7 days ago +6


  • William Healy
    William Healy 8 days ago +12

    Ok but what about when it shows young Wilfred on the TV in a rather rich looking house,just saying

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  8 days ago +10

      My take on it is that it is propaganda. The line is edited a bit jerkily (as if it were taken out of a larger context). The video looks staged and awkward. The whole classroom scene feels a bit brain-washy (i think they've watched that video many times before). I think they are trying to inculcate the kids in that section to want to 'Live on the Train Forever' and never rebel - and it's not an accurate picture of Wilford's youth. But I could be wrong! :D

  • A.J. Lombardi
    A.J. Lombardi 8 days ago +5

    7:30 beginning OOF snowpiercer

  • Saulo Leão
    Saulo Leão 8 days ago +15

    the amount of people that like me, just found out about this on reddit and is now watching every video about it. literally mind blown.

  • nachos
    nachos 8 days ago +11

    this is a completely different theory. this is saying that its a retelling / nod to the original story. the original theory says it is literally a sequel.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  8 days ago +7

      I don't see why it can't be both! A sequel that catches up with the characters 50 years on from when the film is set, AND a retelling of the same story that explores the more horrific consequences of the movie (bizarre food production, human mutilation, the effects of greed on a society etc), with some alternatives presented to the happy ending of the young boy inheriting the factory. I think it is exploring the original movie on many different levels... ;D

  • Derek Lewis
    Derek Lewis 8 days ago +3

    This is legit. Good on the director

  • BunnyBrains
    BunnyBrains 8 days ago +18

    3:25 If I'm remembering the video correctly, according to Rhino Stew's original theory, *Wilford* is Charlie - not Curtis.
    Great theory all around though! :)

    • BunnyBrains
      BunnyBrains 8 days ago +4

      Yeah, that makes sense, I can see that.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  8 days ago +5

      Yes spot on, the Rhino Stew video says that Charlie grows up to become Wilford, but I think Curtis is also a Charlie Bucket analogue - he goes through the same narrative journey from poverty to food factory ownership - his story and progression through the train parallels Charlie's...

  • Quick Gamer
    Quick Gamer 8 days ago

    I watched that video also

  • Sydney Renee
    Sydney Renee 9 days ago +2

    Just added my own theory 'bout Violet in the comments of the other vid when I noticed this. Mind blown again.

  • Yusri Zohri
    Yusri Zohri 9 days ago +6

    Annndddd remember! It just a theory!!! A film theory!! Thanks

    • Quick Gamer
      Quick Gamer 8 days ago

      No just just no

    • Yusri Zohri
      Yusri Zohri 9 days ago +1

      If u read it with mattpat voice.. that mean u need a therapy..

  • Mckenzie Boyle
    Mckenzie Boyle 9 days ago +17

    This is honestly the only film theory that matters to me in the entire world

  • Alaskan Bullworm
    Alaskan Bullworm 9 days ago +22

    As you can see there is metal used for wonkas gate to his factory...


    Oof i think this theory is a little to farfetched

  • Argail Ruiz Cámara
    Argail Ruiz Cámara 9 days ago +12

    5:06 and i could swear there is also a hat like wonka's right there with the scarf

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  9 days ago

      Check out the new video I made about these movies! A few other people also pointed out the top hat (which I genuinely didn't notice when I was making this one) - but in the new video I've coloured it in a bit more, so it's clearer to see! :D

  • Dat Boi JRock
    Dat Boi JRock 9 days ago +4

    Snowpiercer is a complete garbage fire of a movie

    • Ahh Ah animates
      Ahh Ah animates 5 days ago

      *please don’t feel the troll

    • VelaToNorma7
      VelaToNorma7 8 days ago

      Snowpiercer really was bad though. Like, it was objectively bad.

    • jwo7777777
      jwo7777777 8 days ago +3

      Please don't feed the troll. ( ... and the phrase you were looking for is "dumpster fire". You're welcome... "Dat Boi". What is that name, by the way, Vietnamese? )

    • jose
      jose 9 days ago

      I liked the movie 👍

    • AdvancePlays
      AdvancePlays 9 days ago +2

      Since when? As far as I'm aware it's always been subject to praise.

  • Filip Wessman
    Filip Wessman 9 days ago

    They say there are only 7 stories. This is two variations of one of them? But then, the creators know alot of culture so it picked up stuff from the first movie.

  • karma justice
    karma justice 10 days ago +3

    Oh no....... Its " The Number 23" all over again !!!!!!!! 😌

  • Barrymarti #
    Barrymarti # 10 days ago +2

    I thought Claude was Violet daughter cause she ate her blood cause there’re “violet” in it
    Yay two likes

  • Joel Jaxson
    Joel Jaxson 10 days ago +3

    I'm very entertained by this

  • Mgtow Brony
    Mgtow Brony 10 days ago +1

    That scene in STORKS when the CEO says "BOOOOOOOSSSSSS!"...Cool cool cool very cool very cool :-)

  • Stephanie Jones
    Stephanie Jones 10 days ago +3

    I love this and i love you. Beautiful end!

  • Mesanin3
    Mesanin3 10 days ago +3


  • Joseph kush
    Joseph kush 10 days ago +5

    Danm the future sure sucks

  • Timothy Collins
    Timothy Collins 10 days ago +7

    Coincidence? I think not.

  • The Artist
    The Artist 10 days ago +4

    brilliant! thanks for the added fuel lol

  • TheAsianInTheCorner
    TheAsianInTheCorner 10 days ago +2

    *We've Cracked the case, Chief!*

  • Zach Michaelis
    Zach Michaelis 11 days ago +13

    no black kid will change anything except the cinder block under an escalade when he steals the rims

    • Kylum
      Kylum 5 days ago

      Don't feed the trolls guys.

    • Coyote Prophet
      Coyote Prophet 8 days ago +1

      +Zach Michaelis showing your true degenerate colors. You need to go the route of Emmett Till.

    • Deez Mollusks
      Deez Mollusks 9 days ago +2

      +Iced he's just mad cause his sister don't put out anymore.

    • Iced
      Iced 10 days ago +1

      awh look at this dude trying to be edgy

    • Joe Morales
      Joe Morales 10 days ago +2

      Zach Michaelis haha you’re a pussy

  • Harry Ruffin
    Harry Ruffin 11 days ago +2

    This is it chief

  • Matthew Peters-Nahnee
    Matthew Peters-Nahnee 11 days ago +3

    I Am convinced.

  • Jeremy S
    Jeremy S 11 days ago +1

    As any gambler knows, occasionally you get several good hands in a row. Something that's mathematically unlikely, but it does happen. Do I think the director of snowpircer inspired by WW? Probably. But you can draw parallels in just about anything.
    I'd give it a 3 out of 10 possibility rating.

    • Nicholas Bonasoro
      Nicholas Bonasoro 9 days ago +2

      I agree that the vast majority of the evidence provided can be a coincidence but the song is definitive proof. You dont accidentally include a willy Wonka song in a movie not intended to relate to willy Wonka.

    • 10 Minute Physics
      10 Minute Physics 10 days ago +2

      It does happen. But the more things that happen in a row cause the likelihood of such an event being directly correlated to another to rise.

  • Alpha Wolf3475
    Alpha Wolf3475 11 days ago +1

    Wonkapiercer the sequel

  • Comrade Artyom
    Comrade Artyom 11 days ago +5

    My god. Holy crap. It’s real

  • Brig's Comics
    Brig's Comics 11 days ago +2

    Was that a top hat I saw!!!

  • Chuck testa
    Chuck testa 11 days ago +5

    fuck my life is a lie

  • William Healy
    William Healy 11 days ago +18

    wouldn't it be willy piercer

    RAPH FELIX 11 days ago +2

    its not a sequel. at least not directly. it is a fine example of history repeating. it happens.

  • prince everlove
    prince everlove 11 days ago +2

    I cherish Willy Wonka...Thank You...I am a child again...and Wonka is smiling down on me..."Good Boy"🍭🍭🍭🍬🍬🍬🍦🍦🍦🍨🍨🍨🍚🍚🍚🍥🍥🍥

  • Retro Vader
    Retro Vader 11 days ago +3

    Beautiful presentation.Nicely done.👏👏👏👏

  • Jeff Shoemaker
    Jeff Shoemaker 11 days ago +10

    I mean wow! Watching both videos was like an undergrad lit class. You USclip folks and your vids are changing the game by revealing how easy it is to educate the self outside of institutions.

  • Artorias
    Artorias 11 days ago +5

    But you know that the film snowpiercer is based on comics from french authors?

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  11 days ago +4

      Yes of course, but only in a very superficial way apparently! It took the main idea then added a new story to it...

  • Gateaux Q
    Gateaux Q 11 days ago +7

    Well done! A good appendix to the original video which is totally canon because Chris Evans retweeted it 😁

  • Hex
    Hex 11 days ago +8

    at the end...
    great missed opportunity was missed... willypiercer.

  • GanonGhidorah
    GanonGhidorah 12 days ago +6

    This is a really fun theory...and even if it isn't true, I THINK there could be an argument to be made that the plot-structure and progression was intentionally used as a frame-work for Snowpiercer - sort of a really twisted reference to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. It's almost like a dark retelling of what is essentially the same events, almost like its meant to be a dark parody - they just didn't want to go through the pain of getting copyright permission.
    But it really does feel like that's what this movie is; you ask me what the plot feels like and I say, "It's a Messed-Up version of Willy Wonka."
    But what got me thinking this whole thing was intentional is the fact that Willy could be a nickname for Wilford.

  • Bob Ross
    Bob Ross 12 days ago +18

    Film Theory wants to know your location.

    • BeastTronic
      BeastTronic 11 days ago

      Bob Ross bro wtf that’s some shit right there

  • Nathaniel Sonneveld
    Nathaniel Sonneveld 12 days ago +15

    Yo, did you also notice Wonkas TOP HAT NEXT TO THE SCARF ON POINT #5!?

  • anthonyprieto09
    anthonyprieto09 12 days ago +5

    Fuck you holy shit

  • Drake Silas
    Drake Silas 12 days ago +5

    So this is a joke right

    • SwordTune
      SwordTune 11 days ago +1

      +Drake Silas I don't know what other stuff this channel does, I just though he made bad theories.

    • Drake Silas
      Drake Silas 11 days ago +2

      +SwordTune Yeah that was my thought exactly. The points made in this video are so inconsequential that I thought it was mocking the tone and narrative of the original video

    • SwordTune
      SwordTune 11 days ago +2

      Some of the evidence in this video is surface, inconsequential, or just plain coincidence. The original video already covers the major points, and makes a strong argument that snowpiercer is the spiritual successor, of not intended to be the actual sequel.

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  12 days ago +4

      Well I found it amusing - but also I think there is something to it..

  • Jayden 209914
    Jayden 209914 12 days ago

    Ok after watching this vid........I was like

    WTF AND WTH AND WTF WTF WTF WTF??????????????????????????????????????,????,??,??!??!?!?!!?!?!!?!!??!!!?!?¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

  • Nomadic Kong
    Nomadic Kong  12 days ago +1

    Hey everyone,
    New video just released!!
    More Snowpiercer vs. Willy Wonka connections, from the silly to the specific!
    Check it out and Happy New Year!!! :D

  • Jan Kåre Sunby
    Jan Kåre Sunby 12 days ago +10

    good video, but some of the arguments you make are simply coincidences, good work

  • Iby Hamdy
    Iby Hamdy 13 days ago +10

    wait no the theory states that Wilford is charlie bucket not Curtis

    • Brettersson
      Brettersson 13 days ago +7

      The theory states Wilford is Charlie literally and Curtis is Charlie in the role he plays.

  • Waldemar Perez Jr
    Waldemar Perez Jr 13 days ago +8

    Snowpiercer was cool, BUT come ON!
    It had a totally depressing nihilistic ending. All those people dead and that Bear about to eat them.

    • Leah
      Leah 9 days ago +1

      They were following the bear to see if they could eat what the bear was eating. They were going to survive.

    • DKJagz
      DKJagz 10 days ago

      I think the bear symbolizes that life had not gone extinct outside of the train and that it is possible to live without the train.

  • TvTrollByIvy
    TvTrollByIvy 13 days ago +3

    The theory is awesome, but everybody keeps ignoring that Snowpiercer is a comic book adaptation.
    You would have to find links there too, since you are also using the chocolate factory book for evidence;

    • James Topping
      James Topping 11 days ago +1

      It could be a comic book adaptation that he wanted to bring to Wonka and the chocolate factory. There's no reason why it being an adaptation stops them from adding weird twists and themes as its put into picture, there is so many visual clues you could give in connection that would never be in the source material. Not trying to shoot you down, just a point that the correlation is not concrete, its just hard to pinpoint on a weird topic like this in the first place.

  • ElKaotik
    ElKaotik 13 days ago +9

    There are too many coincidences for this theory to be completely false.

    • Blue G
      Blue G 10 days ago

      You're right. And that includes the score and the shot of the train track around the town as seen from high above.

  • Jake Woods
    Jake Woods 13 days ago +9

    Maybe a bit of conformation bias, but on the whole there’s a considerable amount of evidence.

  • Eddie Holmes
    Eddie Holmes 13 days ago +8

    Yep just looked it up, Charlie was originally a Black kid until the publisher made him change it. The ooompa loompa were originally African people but the NAACP demanded that they change it. Again.... Great video Sir.

    • Albert Alu
      Albert Alu 11 days ago

      +Space_Race I like how you refuse to answer my questions and resort to cherry picking single lines and countering it with strawman arguments
      You have lost
      And I have proof

    • Albert Alu
      Albert Alu 11 days ago

      +Space_Race Bro he is actually not talking about the argument at all

      he's just saying you need some help
      that's all
      and he's right

    • Albert Alu
      Albert Alu 11 days ago

      +Space_Race Narcissism at it's finest

      so did you find proof for me yet?

    • Nomadic Kong
      Nomadic Kong  11 days ago

      +Space_Race Well, she also makes no references to there being a character called 'Tommy Troutbeck' - it's not a comprehensive summary, but yes I probably should have looked at the actual first-hand source for myself before publicizing the idea. It seemed legitimate at the time, based on the best available evidence I had to hand.. :P
      My theory is that Bong was looking for an interesting story to use within the framework of a society contained within a moving train in a post-apocalyptic waste, that he took from the Snowpiercer comics. He came up with the idea of reworking the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory/Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory story.
      I reckon as he was writing his screenplay, the biography of Dahl by Sturrock was released, which he read, as it was relevant to this film he was writing. So the salient question for me, is if he was trying to tell the story of Charlie Bucket, and discovered in this book that he was black (and presumably believed it to be true), did that then influence his own creative process in the creation of Timmy? :D

    • PDot Iso
      PDot Iso 11 days ago

      +Space_Race ok

  • xXMikey2808Xx
    xXMikey2808Xx 13 days ago +4

    Honestly, I would consider myself a cinephile, but I hate both of these movies. Yet, this theory is so fun and interesting that it makes me kind of enjoy them.

    • Space_Race
      Space_Race 13 days ago

      Many films follow a similar arc.

    • CapnTates
      CapnTates 13 days ago +1

      How can you hate these movies?

  • xXMikey2808Xx
    xXMikey2808Xx 13 days ago

    Honestly, I would consider myself a cinephile, but I hate both of these movies. Yet, this theory is so fun and interesting that it makes me kind of enjoy them.

    • ikilltrees666
      ikilltrees666 10 days ago

      xXMikey2808Xx You hate both?
      That’s heavy man, what do you like?