Can LGBTQ+ and Christians See Eye To Eye?

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  • MHM
    MHM 22 hours ago

    Can I just say how the comments are more entertaining than the video???

  • Talon Sage
    Talon Sage Day ago

    We're a pagan family. When my daughter was 10, a local church held what I called "Pizza With Jesus" in the park at the head of our street.
    They had games and activities and pizza. Before you got pizza, you got Jesus. Each sex divided age group had a volunteer to discuss the Bible topic of the day.
    We encouraged her to take part bc, everyone should have knowledge. Even though she knew Christianity's roots, ect, it never hurts to learn from other people.
    Some days I went and hung out (the lady for my daughter's group was shocked at my biblical knowledge, but that's another story.), some days I didn't.
    I had stayed home one Monday (it was Monday evenings thru the summer) and she came home and asked me if sex before marriage was wrong.
    I said, no, it's not wrong. Why do you ask?
    Her response: "I didn't THINK it was wrong! What they said just didn't make sense at all!!!"
    My girl. Proud mama.

  • Tragically Rad
    Tragically Rad Day ago +1

    Im not against homosexuality i am Christian but i feel like its wrong. But i still support it because love to me is love if that makes sense.

  • Mr.masky
    Mr.masky Day ago

    Atheist and Christian middleground please can we see that

  • Sergio
    Sergio Day ago

    well. I am a man and I am heterosexual. I like being called "man", simple. that is what I am. I hate being called "cis male" or other terms like that

  • Willow Joy
    Willow Joy Day ago +1

    *cries in gay*

  • hana
    hana Day ago

    "Wouldn't you say that sex within certain contexts is detestable? Like if it's non-consensual?" That's not sex, that's rape, and it has nothing to do with the discussion of whether premarital sex is sinful.

  • Timmy Motyka
    Timmy Motyka Day ago +1

    Finally Christians ✝️ and LGBTQ 🏳️‍🌈 people can get along. Normally they argue fight and butt heads on this topic!

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago

      +Orinoco Flow Some Christians do, so you're wrong.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      Timmy Motyka of course Christians and LGBTQ+ people can get along. The only thing is that Christians will never support their cause or lifestyle.
      But that doesn’t impede getting along!

  • Emanuel Abraham
    Emanuel Abraham Day ago

    So killing a human and killing a animal is not same thing.?

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago +1

      +Orinoco Flow We ARE animals.
      We evolved, remember

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      Emanuel Abraham I’m sorry can you clarify you question or comment?

  • BlueArtedPanda
    BlueArtedPanda Day ago +1

    im pan. im non-binary. im christian.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      BlueArtedPanda Do you mind showing me passages in the Bible that references pansexuals and non binaries?

  • Regan Linkous
    Regan Linkous Day ago +1

    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being part of lgbtqia!! 🏳️‍🌈
    Edit: disagree with me...let’s see how much hate I get in the comments

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago

      +Orinoco Flow Lol, you've never died before.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      Regan Linkous as far as society and worldly views are concerned, you’re right there’s probably not much wrong with being past if that community.
      What really matters, is whether it’s wrong in Gods eyes. He’s the one you have to face when you die!
      And the answer is, yes, it’s very wrong in Gods eyes to participate in such a community and it’s an abomination to engage in acts of homosexuality!

  • Waluigi
    Waluigi Day ago +2

    Yo I'm an atheist and I'm gay, someome argue with me please.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago

      +Orinoco Flow you're giving him what he wants lmfaooooo

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      Why would you want someone to argue with you?
      What topic? Wouldn’t debate be better than argue?

    • Elliott 7008
      Elliott 7008 Day ago

      Okay let's go snubbed smash Bros character
      "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" so prove me wrong

  • joanna the turtle fish

    Becky was so respectful and overall I think everyone was however the person with blue eyebrows was a bit disrespectful when she said pronoun police.i think the most respectful people were the christian however that could be biased as I am also cheistaian

  • Kacey Cruz
    Kacey Cruz 2 days ago

    Why is there never muslims and Jews vs lgbtq?! You’d never dare would you?!Christian’s are not the only ones who believes sexual immorality and homosexuality are sins.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      They attract the real threat which is Christianity. That’s why.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago

      why so mad?

  • my blood sweat & tears are dirty water

    You should have put Catholics and LGBT+ together. I grew up Catholic and in 8th grade our pastor came and taught us about homophobia and that gays are lying.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      I know there’s a Bible in the catholic organization. Have you ever fact checked what the Catholics priest told you with the Bible?
      It’s sad how the Roman Catholic Doctrine is so blatantly disrespectful to God and the Bible.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 2 days ago

      Lying about what lmao

  • Jay S
    Jay S 2 days ago

    “I identify as they” omgggg 😂😂😂

  • Eddie Brock TV
    Eddie Brock TV 2 days ago

    They say love is love. So that means incest is ok.

  • Chris Hansen
    Chris Hansen 2 days ago +1

    As a Christian that was born a Christian and raised as one I would say that I don’t hate the LGBTQ community but I don’t think what they are doing is right nor do I support it. They have my respect at the end of the day and if one of them would be getting victimized I would step in. I just hope that people stop seeing Christianity as something bad, I don’t care if you believe in a god or not, this completely my beliefs and you have yours

  • joshua person
    joshua person 2 days ago

    I'm Christian in the bible I believe it says, man with a woman and woman with a man so for me thats were i say thats what i will fallow, I don't care if you think that's bad or homophobic .........Buttttt it tells me to love the sin and hate the sinner for that reason I will hang out lgbtq people it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all I disagree with their stand point the same as any political parties

  • Henry Finman
    Henry Finman 2 days ago

    It annoys me to no end how they put put the title in reverse order of the thumbnail for the 2 groups on these videos

  • Victoria Marks
    Victoria Marks 2 days ago

    Jesus said to follow 2 rules. Love god and love each other so i dont understand why those christians think that homosexuality is a sin

  • Joseph Harris
    Joseph Harris 2 days ago +1

    I really wish the lgbt would stop trying to force the they/them pronoun thing. It’s common since that there is only 2 genders. From the beginning of time there has been 2 genders. I understand they want to identify as something but you can’t magically say it and it just come true.

    • Joseph Harris
      Joseph Harris 23 hours ago

      Maksie0 they are the same thing dude. It’s just in the past couple years people have been trying to say they’re different.

    • Maksie0
      Maksie0 23 hours ago

      I feel like you may be confusing sex and gender.

    • Joseph Harris
      Joseph Harris 23 hours ago

      Maksie0 they has been used when referring to someone that you don’t know there gender yet, yes,. But you can not just be a they/them you are male/female.

    • Maksie0
      Maksie0 Day ago

      The singular "they" has been in use in the English language for centuries.

  • Necro Fell
    Necro Fell 2 days ago +1

    Well let's actually think unbiased for a moment :
    If God is a "Grand Planned" as bible(or any religious scriptures) regards him to be, then isn't homosexuality part of his "grand plan". Also if he/she is omniscient, then he/she already knew about homosexuality, So......So he/she actually would approve of homosexuality OR has doomed these people to an eternity in hell not because they are like that way but because he planned it to be.

    • Necro Fell
      Necro Fell 22 hours ago

      +Oh Wowow exactly, I'm not christian, so aren't 77% of rest of the world, so after our death we are fated to go to hell, a dark fiery pit and get tortured for ETERNITY, BUT.......BUT "God loves us".

    • Necro Fell
      Necro Fell 23 hours ago

      +Orinoco Flow he allowed it to happen??
      isn't he omniscient? If so then there is no context of allow, he already knew the shits that were about to happen, so yes, he wanted it to happen.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago +1

      +Orinoco Flow if God is all good, why would he not prevent us from burning in hell..
      Which is exactly what would happen if he created us, provided no evidence and gave the reasonable people a reason to not believe in him resulting in them burning in hell fire.

      An all good God would have wanted to prevent this from happening.
      Can't he create a plan where no one gets hurt?
      Or is the only way for his plan to work is if someone got hurt a lot

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      chris sonofpear1 of course. I am one of those who sometimes thinks or feels there’s information we don’t have, that perhaps we should have. But then again, those are my thoughts, not God’s

  • Rejoice ChristisKing

    I loved that

  • Sphmer.
    Sphmer. 2 days ago

    I want them to do LGBTQ+ vs. Muslims. Christians are the prime target for homophobia, but the media is always focused on Christians.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago +1

      +Orinoco Flow Christianity isn't the truth.
      You've fooled yourself and you don't see it.

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 2 days ago

      If you go around expecting to be persecuted, it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Especially when getting forceful and making claims about human nature that others may contest...

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 2 days ago

      Because Christianity is the truth. Only a true threat is going to be under attack.
      You only attack a criminal intruder, why? because he's the real threat.
      Yet you can have a complete stranger, such as the plumber or gardener, come into your house, and you're not going to attack him or her.. Why? Because they're not a real threat.
      Emphasis on the word real.

  • Katty03 17
    Katty03 17 3 days ago +2

    I’m a christian and support lgbtq 100% just because I’m Christian they assume that I’m homophobic but I’m not im the opposite 🏳️‍🌈

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago

      +Orinoco Flow They didn't rebel, they don't hate God.
      They see no evidence for God, therefore they live their own life, which could be their only one. They don't wanna waste it worshipping a God they have no proof for.

      You talk as though being gay is a choice, it is not.
      Don't you understand that if it is not a choice, they should be allowed to live that way?
      The fact is, there is no evidence for God, therefore no good reason to believe it exists.
      Sound reasonable?

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      chris sonofpear1 it does seem very steep, u til you understand the reasoning and context behind it. There’s a lot of things I don’t like about God and the Bible. But I can’t tell God how to run things.
      Isaiah 55:8-9
      8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
      neither are your ways my ways,”
      declares the Lord.
      9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
      so are my ways higher than your ways
      and my thoughts than your thoughts.

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 Day ago

      The one that couldn't stop people being stoned for talking back to parents? Seems a bit steep...

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      Oh Wowow anyone who lives a life that goes against the Holy Bible hates God. That how it works.
      God created man and woman to be together in marriage and be fruitful.
      The LGBTQ+ have rejected that reality and have rebelled against that reality and Gods principles.
      Yes they hate God.

  • Joel Ramirez
    Joel Ramirez 3 days ago

    Lady in blue I just don't trust. She apart of something else to further pull us from God but everyone else I understand. I believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior while also believing that being gay or lesbian or anything else is between them an God not me. I am supposed to love them just the same. I believe as a man of faith we are supposed to teach about Jesus and to love one another everything else is between you as an individual and God.

  • IM A Shooketh THICC BOI

    In youth I think it will but for some it isn’t

  • Rrobb Wilson
    Rrobb Wilson 3 days ago

    Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Natalie Gem
    Natalie Gem 3 days ago +6

    when Jesus was on earth he loved prostitutes, murderers, and liars and gave them a second chance, so shouldn’t us Christians be doing the same?

    ☕️🐸

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 2 days ago

      Do humans inherit WEAKENED free will from Adam and Eve, Orinoco?

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 2 days ago

      Notice Jesus Christ did not support their lifestyle but did forgive them.. There's a difference between loving someone and forgiving them, compared to "supporting their lifestyle". If someone seeks repentance from God and shows favor for God, IM sure he's eager to forgive them, but he's not about to let them continue on living in sin.. He loves them too much for that.
      And no.. you can not enter heaven, unless you renounce your sin.. or sinful lifestyle. God will not permit sin to enter heaven

  • aicha kermal
    aicha kermal 3 days ago

    Converting to Islam liberates a person from slavery to manmade systems and lifestyles.
    Islam emancipates the mind from superstitions and uncertainties; it liberates the soul from sin and corruption and frees the conscience from oppression and fear. Submission to the will of God, does not curtail freedom, on the contrary it gives a very high degree of freedom by freeing the mind from superstitions and filling it with truth and knowledge.
    Once a person accepts Islam they are no longer slaves to fashion, or consumerism, and they are free from the slavery of a monetary system designed to subjugate the people. On a smaller but equally as important scale Islam liberates a person from the superstitions that rule the lives of those not truly submitted to God. A believer knows that good and bad luck do not exist. Both the good and the bad aspects of our lives come from God and as Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, explains all the affairs of a believer are good, "If he is granted ease then he is thankful, and this is good for him. And if he is afflicted with a hardship, he perseveres, and this is good for him".[1]
    After a person is freed from manmade systems and lifestyles he or she is free to worship God in the correct manner. A believer is able to put his trust and hope in God and sincerely seek His mercy.
    2. Converting to Islam allows a person to truly experience God’s love.
    Converting to Islam allows a person to achieve God’s love by following His guide to life - the Quran, and the authentic teachings and traditions of Prophet Muhammad. When God created the world He did not abandon it to instability and insecurity. He sent a rope, firm and steady, and by holding tightly to this rope an insignificant human being can achieve greatness and eternal peace. In the words of Quran, God makes His desires perfectly clear, however human beings have free will and are free to either please or displease God.
    Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love God then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah), God will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Quran 3:31)
    And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. (Quran 3:85)
    There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut[2] and believes in God, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And God is All-Hearer, All-Knower. (Quran 2:256)
    3. A benefit of converting to Islam is that God promises Paradise to the believer.
    "And those who believe (in the Oneness of God) and do righteous good deeds, to them We shall surely give lofty dwellings in Paradise, underneath which rivers flow, to live therein forever. Excellent is the reward of the workers." (Quran 29: 58)
    4. Happiness, tranquillity and inner peace and can be achieved by converting to Islam

  • ShamGal Unicorn Home Page :Aka:ME

    6:00 but if its not consensual then it becomes different because it’s considered rape.....

  • Icaruspotion
    Icaruspotion 3 days ago

    Yes and pushing an agenda all lgbts hate Christians and all Christians hate lgbt is incredibly toxic and paints a horrible picture of both sides

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 2 days ago

      Fair enough. I'd never blame a Christian baker for refusing to sell a cake. Will you do others the courtesy of not prejudging them about whether they 'hate' an elusive figure?

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 2 days ago +1

      If people would use the English language properly, they would realize that Christians do not hate members of the LGBTQ+ community.. "What they won't do is "support" their lifestyle and their cause.
      Lack of support and hate are two totally separate and different terms.

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 3 days ago

      It's a common enough view that I suppose it needed to be addressed.

  • Amelia Rassmus
    Amelia Rassmus 3 days ago

    The guy is the blue shirt and glasses with a bf is adorable and must be protected❤️

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      Oh Wowow Scientists knows that the universe has a beginning. That’s a recent discovery.
      How could have Moses ever know the universe had a beginning back about 6,000 years ago or so?
      Genesis 1
      In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
      That would have been impossible, unless a supreme being shared this information with him.
      You see how the Bible supersedes science? It’s that easy an simple!

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago +1

      +Orinoco Flow Lmfao, if you're curious or interested about what I think of God.
      Here's what I think.
      God is possible.
      But God is not likely.
      Although the likelihood of God's existence is a topic of debate and discussion.
      But there being an eternal entity which created the whole Universe?
      Nah.
      Not likely.
      The fact that science can't answer how the big bang gave rise to the Universe yet, does not mean God is the answer.
      When someone doesn't know something and then say "God did it." is intellectually lazy and stops them from thinking critically BECAUSE in their minds, they 100% believe the answers that they got from their religion is undoubtedly correct.
      Only some are lucky enough to reverse the damage and destruction caused by religion.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 2 days ago

      +Oh Wowow A highly intelligent being making humanity is much more plausible, then us coming from a single celled organism. That leaves the question, where does a single celled organism come from?
      Science can't answer that..
      And why are you so opposed to there being an intelligent supreme being behind it.. How does that affect you and your existence?
      Could it be, because it's sears your guilty conscious?

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 2 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow God did not make anyone, there is no evidence for it so we can dismiss it.
      Instead of saying God did it, try to find real answers.

  • Maria Strohm
    Maria Strohm 3 days ago +3

    I'm christian and I'm absolutely not conservative...

  • Angela Williams
    Angela Williams 3 days ago

    The only reason god says u have to be married while having sex is because he sees sex as a sacret thing. Sex is only done when being fruitful.

  • Angela Williams
    Angela Williams 3 days ago

    Simple answer here. Do not under any circumstances use religion in this situation. If u do not use religion and u were not taught that being gay was wrong how vould u think it wrong. U are taught whats right and wrong.

  • Lily Snape
    Lily Snape 3 days ago +3

    ... I am catholic and a member of the LGBTQ+ Comunity... am I a paradox? Nope. I'm just confused why people always but us as a whole as 'Homophobic'. Jesus (pun not intendet) but I went to f**** pride with my priest in his collar!

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      chris sonofpear1 I would say that’s an oxymoron! Depending on context!

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 Day ago

      Define possessive love...

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow Day ago

      Oh Wowow when tow people are attracted to each other they do not make love you . 🤦🏼‍♂️
      You have to get to know a person really well and intimately to be able to love them.
      Two people attracted to each other is simply called an attraction, emotion, or crush, not love.
      Love can apply to everyone depending on what context you’re using it in. A homo could love his father, because he wishes his father well.
      In homosexuality its about vile affections, lust, sodomy. There is no love in that perverse lifestyle.

  • Nathan Malik
    Nathan Malik 3 days ago

    Gosh I need the full unedited videos!

  • Just an innocent Pomegranate

    Sipping my bisexualiTEA as I crush on Rad

  • Henry Grak
    Henry Grak 4 days ago +1

    Can you bring people (“conservative Christians”) that actually know the Bible? Not People that say more than “I feel like” “I think” or “my personal opinion” but those who can actually say that “this is what it says in the Bible about it”.
    There is no such things as greater or lesser sin! They’re all equally lead to hell. They have different consequences (in our world) but they’re all equal.

  • mellophonesheikah
    mellophonesheikah 4 days ago

    Im living for the one girls hair

  • Jules Thompson
    Jules Thompson 4 days ago

    Her hair and dimples oh my god 💖

  • Jack Harris
    Jack Harris 4 days ago +4

    I do kinda hate how this video uses Christian and conservative synonymously

  • dead ass
    dead ass 4 days ago

    Ok but can he see tho?

  • dead ass
    dead ass 4 days ago

    Ok but why did she get dipped in dip

  • Hannah Blank
    Hannah Blank 4 days ago

    Did she say Bae or Bi

  • Ryan Corrigan
    Ryan Corrigan 4 days ago

    Hate the sin, love the sinner.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow Day ago

      +Orinoco Flow You hate on gays.
      Calling them disgusting, filthy and an abomination.
      What makes you think gay people hate God?
      After all, being gay is not a choice, so you shouldn't expect them to not perform sexual acts. It's common sense.
      But if God knew being gay wasn't a choice, he'd be okay with it.
      Maybe God was just a regular bloke who hated gay people.
      Maybe he thought sex was only for reproduction.
      So he didn't think gays were 'normal'.
      :)
      It seems pretty plausible, don't ya think?
      There's no good reason to believe any "holy" book is from God because we have no evidence that it was.
      Schizophrenic people have imaginary friends just like you do.
      Except the schizophrenic is in an asylum and you're just part of a religion, so....
      *AS LONG AS YOU'RE PART OF A RELIGION, IT'S OKAY TO BE SCHIZOPHRENIC*

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 2 days ago

      +Oh Wowow What makes you think I live life hating anyone?
      And what about Love thy neighbor? Do you even know what Jesus meant by love thy neighbor? Who was he referring to?
      Furthermore lack of support and hate are two different things. Perhaps you should take an English vocabulary class.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 2 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow You shouldn't live life hating on lgbt.
      What happened to love thy neighbor?

  • Hikari Luv
    Hikari Luv 4 days ago +2

    Answering the title: of course they can. I'm a lesbian and a Christian

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 2 days ago

      Do we START by loving our neighbour, or an invisible being to whom access is guarded by book editors?

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 3 days ago +2

      +Orinoco Flow For the billionth time.

      Just because they are gay does not mean they hate God.
      What's your motto "love thy neighbor unless they gay"?

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 3 days ago

      Hikari Luv You don’t understand what Jesus said about judging did you?
      If You claim to be a Christian I have every right to Judge you. If you’re in unbeliever then I don’t.
      Either way, I’m not judging you, I’m simply correcting you about Christianity and homosexuality!
      Do you mind me asking you, who in the world told you all this stuff?

  • Fernie Rivera
    Fernie Rivera 4 days ago

    That blue haired girl...ew

  • Daniel Omare
    Daniel Omare 4 days ago

    Don't get me started on this dude, he can't even see the people

  • HowTaesty
    HowTaesty 5 days ago

    This was as civil as I could have possibly imagined, I was very impressed with them.

  • DepStrider
    DepStrider 5 days ago

    I love these guys.

    No homo!

  • I am A Mouse
    I am A Mouse 5 days ago

    Gamers vs furries

  • levi rishel
    levi rishel 5 days ago

    The girl with the blue hair needs to grow up

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 3 days ago +1

      +Orinoco Flow And what is reality, human?

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 4 days ago

      +Oh Wowow She has no clue what reality is.. She's completely clueless and oblivious.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 4 days ago +1

      what makes her not grown up?

  • levi rishel
    levi rishel 5 days ago

    Repent of your sins while youre here on Earth, homosexuality is a sin and everyone knows it.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 3 days ago +1

      chris sonofpear1 pride!

    • levi rishel
      levi rishel 4 days ago

      +chris sonofpear1 and look where they're headed

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 4 days ago

      Nope. First reveal where inclination of angels to rebel came from in a perfect heaven...

  • ASMR
    ASMR 5 days ago +3

    You should get Muslim imam vs Athiest

  • Mario Bianchini
    Mario Bianchini 5 days ago

    As a Christian my answer to the “ why does my view on marriage have to dictate the gay communities view “ paraphrasing the question but my answer would be my views have an eternal effect and ultimately want the world to be back with God. So I feel for the construct of marriage being between a man and a woman and in that marriage it represents the unity we have with God so in order to keep that alive I would say I disagree with homosexual marriage based on not wanting to see what marriage is designed for tarnished. HOWEVER! I would never protest a gay wedding, I would never try and stop a gay parade or protest a gay parade the reason why is Jesus came to fulfill religion and make it about relationship. If you’re gay and you love Jesus and you have a relationship with him? I’m not God so I can’t be the judge... all this being said Jesus loves you regardless of your sexual orientation. Choose him and ask him to reveal himself to you so you can feel his love. Not to change you but to be with him. We are all sinners. If God can choose one sinner he can choose another.

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 3 days ago

      Well, that explains everything then...
      but not, perhaps, Ham's children?

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 3 days ago

      chris sonofpear1 Jude 7 > Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 3 days ago

      Also, it does not seem like people 'suddenly abandon' normal relations, it either happens early on or is inherited from affected hormonal balance, which again, is not wholly volitional.

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 3 days ago

      Wasn't Sodom an Gomorrah about raping guests and being unhospitable? Heard of temple prostitution also? The categories were a little different then, and preconceptions about pederasty from the Hellenics may have affected views.

  • Red Batman
    Red Batman 5 days ago

    Yes they can. I just saved you 15 minutes

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 3 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow There is only one world we're sure of.
      You're blinded by faith.
      Your religion is making you see double, my friend.

    • Red Batman
      Red Batman 3 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow I'm questioning your intellect now, and also that is your opinion. I have friends that are gay and friends with christians. Also You sound like one of those SJW's now, so I'm cutting contact with you now. Go spread your bigotry elsewhere and leave the gays and christains alone.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 3 days ago

      Red Batman perhaps you should get a dictionary and a Bible.
      I’m simply stating the facts. It’s impossible to be a hypocrite and to state the truth and live by the truth!
      Matthew 6:24 > No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
      1 John 2:15 > Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them.
      LGBTQ is of the world!

    • Red Batman
      Red Batman 3 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow How very hypocritical of you.

  • A. Y. Kay
    A. Y. Kay 5 days ago

    Pronouns are social tools. I don’t care if you, as a stranger, call yourself ‘they’ or ‘she’ or ‘he’. My brain drawing gender, ethnicities, sex, educational & age memories & knowledge to you. That’s it. I don’t have time to process what is your gender as it come to you telling me you are a man, woman, them or it. Sorry.

  • NoNut November
    NoNut November 5 days ago

    As a Christian, I have many gay friends, who are even Christians, people gay being gay is a sin, but so is swearing and lying and thing I do every day, I try to show the love Christ gave me for literally dying for me, I love them as brothers for they are my brothers

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 4 days ago

      Well, they all have flesh. Did rebel angels have flesh too?

  • BLACK MANE
    BLACK MANE 5 days ago

    why didn’t they ask muslims ?

  • Shane Laughland
    Shane Laughland 5 days ago

    the girl with the blue hair is interesting, it kind of seems like she has a
    personality disorder

  • Isaac Pulido
    Isaac Pulido 5 days ago

    One of the best ones

  • Jerry
    Jerry 5 days ago

    Wait aren't all sins ultimately weighted equally?

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 3 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow God being real or not is not the point.
      The point is people believe this nonsense without evidence and unknowingly waste their lives away on something there is no evidence for.
      The Bible is the claim, not the evidence.
      So anything in it should not be taken seriously.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 4 days ago

      +Maksie0 Dedicated to spouting bigotry? Do you even know what that means? Hahahaha. You should read the dictionary.
      Clearly based on your comment, you're also intolerant, are you also a bigot? Plus a hypocrite at the same time?
      Why do you need to counter nonsense? Do you also do this with the tooth fairy? After all if God's not real, what's the point?
      Let me teach you a lesson, since you're ignorant.
      Bigotry: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
      This is not about opinions, but about reality.. Facts.. I am intolerant of liars. You are intolerant of righteous people.
      That has nothing to do with bigotry. Imbecile.

  • Joe Francis
    Joe Francis 5 days ago

    Next week on Middle Ground: Can black people and Klansmen see eye to eye?

  • grrr228
    grrr228 5 days ago +1

    Where is the transgender member representing?

  • Steven T
    Steven T 5 days ago

    So many "christians" in these comments are decieved. We may all sin but saying your sin is "glorious" is another level.

    • Steven T
      Steven T 5 days ago

      +Oh Wowow
      What plan is that?

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 5 days ago

      I believe there is no God of any religion.
      I just don't think it's smart for God, who's all knowing, to put a plan, which he knows will fail, into practise.

  • Not your Ferr
    Not your Ferr 5 days ago

    Now put lgbt folks and muslims together. Especially gays.

    • Not your Ferr
      Not your Ferr 4 days ago

      I myself live in a muslim country. They don’t throw them off the buildings ( but the khalifas did it) but they are publicly executed.
      + it doesn’t matter if this law isn’t being executed in a lot of muslim countries, what matters is the fact that this action is promoted by quran and many believe it’s okay.

    • F ormula
      F ormula 4 days ago

      Contrary to popular belief
      Gays don't get chucked from windows here

  • Steven T
    Steven T 5 days ago

    Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Jesus will come like a thief in the night.

  • Mika Yariv
    Mika Yariv 5 days ago +1

    Genuine question here if you believe that god created everything and everyone and truly just has control over their life and has everything planned out for you how exactly is homosexuality a sin? If he created that person and has control over their life why would he make someone lgbt+ if it’s a sin does it really say that in the Bible and if so where’s the logic behind god loves all

    • Mika Yariv
      Mika Yariv 5 days ago

      chris sonofpear1 I meant the belief that homosexuality is a sin or does it actually say it in the Bible

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 5 days ago

      What is a man made thing? When did Adam give the deeds for control of Earth to Satan?

  • Paul Schneider
    Paul Schneider 5 days ago

    I just wish they had a trans-identifying person sitting on that pannel.

  • BRENDA FLORES
    BRENDA FLORES 6 days ago +1

    Yo why she look so yellow 🤣🤣🤣 she looks like the girl from inside out

  • Rian rushwood
    Rian rushwood 6 days ago +1

    At the start you said the conservatives are on the opposite side of the gays. I’m gay and conservative I support trump, guns, and hate abortion

  • RapidObsessor
    RapidObsessor 6 days ago

    ok but that green hair kid has the world's deepest dimples and they are super cute.

  • Popin Eryday
    Popin Eryday 6 days ago +5

    3:02 *homosexual tendencies fighting to be released

  • Dan Wruck
    Dan Wruck 6 days ago +1

    How is it that straight people can tell gay people that how they feel is wrong?

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 2 days ago

      There is anecdotal evidence. People would still like to be assured there is ONE consistent God, that he is competent, and NOT malevolent. Also, that curses of unborn fit into free will claims...

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 3 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow 1. There is no evidence for God. You're just a gullible person when it comes to Christianity.
      2. We are not the offsprings of Adam and Eve. I am as sure of that as I am sure the grass is green.
      3. Homosexuality is not a sin until you've proven otherwise.
      4. If God is all knowing, he should know the outcome of his whole plan. So, what is he waiting for?
      He knows what's gonna happen, but he's not doing anything, he's like... Absent.

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 3 days ago

      A straight person can tell a homosexual person that having same sex/gender attraction is wrong, just the same way a psychologist can tell their patient, that being in a state of depression is wrong.
      I mean if you want to get hyper technical, just exercise your vocal chords

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 3 days ago

      Maksie0 I believe God exists because of the overwhelming amount of evidence he’s provided for us to know he exists, to know his character, and to know his attributes and creation.
      Our corrupt state of mind came from Adam and Eve’s original sin. We are the offspring Adam and Eve. So we inherited our “sin nature” which is a corrupted state of mind, from them!

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 6 days ago

      +Maksie0 lmfaoooo

  • Ashaya P
    Ashaya P 6 days ago +1

    Nobody ever speaks about by who wrote it and when it was written. The Bible supports rape and all kinds of weird things because the people of those days were misogynistic and a little twisted. But it’s like whatever they did was gold and was RIGHT. There were a lot of F’d up things done in the name of God...... time period and the cultural aspect of the time has a lot to do with why it was written the way it was written. Man is flawed and everything he touches, can be corrupted.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 3 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow the existence of God can be debated because there is no evidence.
      If God were real, no one would be disbelieving or denying its existence since it is no choice to be aware of ones existence.
      Worshipping the God is a choice though.

      Don't you think if God really IS all that great and powerful, he'd be able to convince people he exists?
      Not force, but just convince.
      He can leave it to them to choose if they wanna worship him.
      Don't you agree that would've worked better?

    • Orinoco Flow
      Orinoco Flow 4 days ago

      +Oh Wowow First you have to define what a Unicorn is.
      Unicorn: a mythical animal typically represented as a horse with a single straight horn projecting from its forehead.
      Myth : a widely held but false belief or idea.
      Religion can be a big issue these days and people can debate all they want.. What can not be debated is God. God is who he says he is, and that's not going to change.
      God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.. People have to succumb to reality, not their own flawed ideas about life.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 5 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow Where's your evidence unicorns don't exist?
      Religion is a big issue these days, you'll get people debating you left right and centre so be ready.

  • Tim Osman
    Tim Osman 6 days ago +1

    These so called "Christians" need to reread the scriptures. Our father in heaven does not love all. He hates the wicked, workers of inequity. Christ plainly stated "If you love me, follow my commandments". Those who do not follow, those who choose to celebrate Xmas, eat pork, whoremongers, harlots and many more will be cast down. I suggest reading scriptures and quit listening to these pastors who are misleading many. I am not perfect, yet does that mean I should strive for it? God forbid...

  • Paige Queen B
    Paige Queen B 6 days ago

    Read your bible... God hates all sin. Where is the chart in your bible?

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 6 days ago

      He continually created the possibility for it to happen though? In heaven, as well?

  • Megan Axelía Carrington-Ráðvarðurdóttir

    Why’d you introduce the Christians as conservatives????

  • skimbleshanksify
    skimbleshanksify 6 days ago

    I've just binged a bunch of these, and I want to say that this show is great. Just what we need in the age of internet echo chambers. That said, the short format does limit the extent to which the issue can be explored. Also I feel that people are sometimes so polite that the most interesting parts of the conversation are not had. Just one guy's opinion!

  • All iS Well
    All iS Well 6 days ago +3

    God loves the soul not the body.

  • Xenon
    Xenon 6 days ago +1

    If Christians are against gay people and with God, and God made the gay people, WHY THE HELL ARE SOME CHRISTIANS AGAINST LGBTQ+ IF THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR MADE THEM??!

    • Xenon
      Xenon 5 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow I see where you're coming from.

    • Maksie0
      Maksie0 5 days ago

      Orinoco, if you think having sex with another dude is gross, you are allowed to feel that way, and I completely understand if you decide not to have sex with any men.
      But for fuck's sake, stop telling other people what they can or can't do. It's none of your business.

  • nothing human
    nothing human 6 days ago

    I agree with the bottom comment, flat earthers and scientists

  • Nadeen L
    Nadeen L 7 days ago +1

    I don’t know if its because I live in Canada but, I’m 15 and majority of the people my age are not accepting. And it bothers me when they say something intolerant.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 5 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow 1. You're afraid they're 'checking you out' *wink*
      2. If the devil has manipulated my mind, I can't go to hell since I'm being "manipulated" unless God is a dick like that and will burn me in hell for thinking the way the devil made me.
      3. The Bible is the claim, not the evidence.
      Anything in the Bible, you will need to prove if you want rational people to believe.
      Just because the Bible says it's the word of God, doesn't make it so.
      Just like how in Islam, the quran claims to be the word of God, it does not make it so.
      Belief is not evidence.
      And if you're worshipping this God on a daily basis, then yes, you are religious.
      Acting as if it is the truth doesn't make it true.
      It may be true to you, which is a personal truth, doesn't make it true for the rest of the world.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 5 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow You're literally blinded by religion.
      If it's disgusting to you, that's fine.
      But calling it a sin is merely an opinion until you've proven the Bible is the true word of God.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 5 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow your homophobia is showing

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 6 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow Can you like understand the fact that if someone is gay, they have sex with the same gender and not the opposite.
      They do it because they are attracted to each other.
      Nothing corrupt in their mind, nothing filthy about it, you homophobe.

  • Mark Crump
    Mark Crump 7 days ago

    I wish everyone could have conversations in this manner. this is awesome. yes.

  • Literally just a piece of pie

    Everyone but blue

  • CJ
    CJ 7 days ago

    Is being gay in your genes? Or is it something you pick up while growing up?

    • CJ
      CJ 6 days ago

      He can stay

    • CJ
      CJ 6 days ago

      Naw - Rosa parks

    • Maksie0
      Maksie0 6 days ago

      You're right, you have nothing to gain by this, Orinoco.
      So *leave.* Plenty of people have made it clear that you're not wanted here.

    • Kenzie
      Kenzie 6 days ago +1

      Orinoco Flow - Humans *are* animals so it is comparable. We are mammals. So yes homosexuality is natural. It occurs in every walk of life.
      I’m not gay but I have enough common sense to know that there’s nothing wrong with it.
      I’m not arguing with you anymore. It’s like talking to a wall.
      Have a great life sir

  • Iluvbrownbears 4815162342

    A lot of these comments make me really sad. I’m also not a person to typically comment but I really wanted to for this video. Personally, I am Christian, but I am in full support of the LGBTQ+ community and everything that they do. It upsets me to see that many people in the comments believe that just because you are one religion or support a certain thing, that it does not mean you cannot support another. I know some people may disagree with me on this, and I respect your opinion, but I think that being able to fully embrace who you are and to love yourself and others as you wish cannot be a sin. It is too pure and beautiful to be thought of as evil. All of that probably made no sense, but that is my basic opinion on this discussion.

  • T. K.
    T. K. 7 days ago

    Safe to say her favorite color may be blue

  • T. K.
    T. K. 7 days ago

    Smurfette is that you?

  • T5EF4
    T5EF4 7 days ago +1

    hunty lol im going to straight to helll yaahhahaaaaasssss

  • Bee Flat
    Bee Flat 7 days ago

    2:56 This. Temptation is not a sin. Giving into temptation is.

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 7 days ago

      Just having flesh often seems to result in this, inevitably, according to some. What's all this about desire of the eye, and so forth? Regarding Eve?

    • Maksie0
      Maksie0 7 days ago

      It's cool guys! It's fine if you're gay, as long as you arbitrarily live a life of celibacy because our book says so. Have fun dying alone because of bronze age ignorance!

  • Jacob Lochridge
    Jacob Lochridge 7 days ago +3

    Could you do a middle ground episode where you have christians meet with buddhists and/or hindus?

  • Me
    Me 7 days ago +1

    I‘m Christian and support LGBTQ+ ❤️ I‘m a follower of Jesus, and jesus loves everyone, so do I! Jesus never wanted us to discriminate Gay people! Everyone who doesn’t accepts them isn’t a Christian in my opinion! ❤️

    • Me
      Me 2 days ago

      Proud Montenigga ok lets start here: Bible was made up by humans, who wanted to explain why they’re homophobic and things like that. I don’t believe in ALL the things in the Bible, but I believe in a good god who takes care of us. So maybe I‘m not a Christian, but everyone believes in god in their own way or doesn’t believe in him, it‘s ok.
      (Sorry for my really bad English)

    • Proud Montenigga
      Proud Montenigga 2 days ago

      You are not Christian because you don't follow Bible
      You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)
      If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

  • Niccolò Paganini
    Niccolò Paganini 7 days ago

    "Love thy neighbour as thyself"
    So much hate now why can't we all just accept that we don't have to have the same opinions to respect each other. Yes I am a Christian, and yes I think that it is a sin, but there are many other things I think are sins and you don't see me killing and hating on everyone who does them. Why some people think that lgbtqi+ is any different is beyond me, whether it's right or not we shouldn't be discriminating on anyone because of this, that itself goes against the most important commandments in the bible.
    Also ignore my profile picture and username I changed it for a joke and couldn't be bothered to change it back.

    • chris sonofpear1
      chris sonofpear1 7 days ago

      What is the difference between discernment and discrimination?

  • Kendall
    Kendall 7 days ago +1

    Does the blue haired girl look green to anyone

  • denis
    denis 7 days ago +2

    *patiently waits for religion to die*

  • Gsauce 29
    Gsauce 29 7 days ago +2

    I believe if you are gay, lesbian etc. God made you that way, being gay isn't malicious and it isn't harming anyone or disrespecting anyone so it shouldn't be a sin. being gay is ok and God loves you.

    • Gsauce 29
      Gsauce 29 4 days ago +1

      +Oh Wowow ayy nice

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 5 days ago

      +Gsauce 29 he deleted his comments. Mission successful.

    • Oh Wowow
      Oh Wowow 5 days ago

      +Orinoco Flow He does.
      This is all Gods plan, remember.
      No one sends themselves to hell.
      God knows if he goes ahead with his plan, people are gonna burn in hell, and what did he do?
      *HE WENT AHEAD WITH IT*
      you can stick up for God all day, buddy.
      I'll stick up for reason and logic.