How Angry Joe Became A Target - The Wrong Way To Respond? | TRO

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  • Published on Sep 25, 2018
  • Intro:
    For those who didn’t know, I used to, myself be a fairly political commentator, I intertwined it with media friendly topics, and even covered trending topics from time to time, but I was pretty political. I’m not gonna go into that much depth, mainly because I will likely save it for a special video, and I expect to be asked it for a Q&A, but there’s some stuff I stand by, some stuff not so much, ideas evolve, if you care about it you can DM me. If I was still political, I think today’s topic would definitely be of my interest, however, we are running with it on my new format, because I think it’s embedded in USclip culture enough to appeal to many of you.
    So it’s a bit of old, bit of new. And anyway there’s an equally prominent reason that I’m doing this, because, probably to the surprise of some of you, I used to watch a lot of Angry Joe. I wasn’t crazy about the streams and so on, however, I’d always tune in to one of his more longform reviews, and even some of the film reviews, you know, the one with Other Joe and that bloke with the beard, yeah, you know. And also, as a person with OCD levels of pedanticism, I love lists, and in around 2014, at the turn of the year, Angry Joe would drop 3 or 4 big fat lists for me to dig my teeth into. Delish.
    I really enjoy a lot of review channels, they definitely encourage critical thinking, and as someone who had always dreamed about being involved in the creative industry, it gave me ideas of things that I might or might not want to do if I ever followed those arrows. I haven’t yet, though there’s still time, and I’ve ended up here. What a place to be, anyhow, central to that was Angry Joe. He didn’t always provide his criticism in the most constructive way, but he never held back, I mean, it’s in the name. What else would I expect? I enjoyed his passion balanced with delivery of valid criticism, and he also made his name as a huge proponent of consumer values, which, in spite of my criticism of certain people in the past, I’m still a huge fan of people getting their value for money.
    So he definitely played a fundamental part in my life. Another thing that I followed was his politics. It always appeared that he fell into the moderate but passionate left, while still being empathetic towards other views. It was a few weeks back, I was browsing the internet for the latest spice, and decided to see if there were any new Angry Joe videos. I don’t watch them on a particularly regular basis at this point, mainly because of my own commitments, University and USclip equally take up their fair share of time, and I’m still expected to be social to keep up appearances. However, I noticed that one of his most recent videos had a particularly poor like to dislike ratio, that being this cheeky bugger.
    Now, at first, this didn’t surprise me hugely, he’d done other videos in the past that had been poorly received, particularly the ones where he just ranted impromptu at a camera, at the time I moved on, I was just looking for videos to watch. However, a few hours later I heard that it was something a bit more contentious, and then someone messaged me, and then videos came out. And so I was like okay, what is the spice then lads? Well to understand the spice, we have to go to the root, so let’s take a little trip.
    This is Battlefield, I assume most of you know Battlefield, I sure know Battlefield, I personally played Call of Duty more than the franchise, but that was only because at the time, most of my mates played Call of Duty too. “Oooh The Right Opinion played it because his friends did”, shut up, I was 13 and had to manually decipher how socialising worked. I went through a period of copying and pasting highest rated insults off a website onto my Facebook page, they were dark days, alright? Alright…
    So yeah, Battlefield, it’s a game, that people played, and gaming a few years ago, was in a sticky situation. You see, there’s this thing with Call of Duty too, where both games are released fairly regularly, annually for the CoD franchise, now whereas many games typically wait years to have sequels, if they have sequels at all, this idea of a game a year was properly ingrained into the culture. However, like with every progression, you need new ideas, and so there was a chronological movement, typically forward, and with these series we gradually, or quickly, moved into the future, and honestly, in many people’s opinions, it was a bit bad.
    Not because there was anything bad about the idea, but for many people, the overwhelming amount of gadgets and flashy visuals seemed to replace player skill. It just became all a little silly. So Battlefield, noticing this, smartly decided to go back in time, to World War I, for Battlefield One, which, was given great praise by many critics, which, in spite of the slightly short single player campaign, was supplemented by an excellent multiplayer which had some pretty cool features...
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  • The Right Opinion
    The Right Opinion  8 months ago +275

    CREDITS BELOW THIS PARAGRAPH, GO CHECK THEM OUT:
    Freudian slip at 6:48, meant Battlefront 2, did correct it on screen but got blended in partly with the background.
    Firstly, really sorry for this being late, I had the hurricane, which I wasn’t too affected by, but my head editor (who was also meant to edit a part) was called out to the National Guard, bless him, but at the end of the day, a video’s a video. Just like to say that although there is footage, I’m not directly implying anyone unless vocally mentioned. I might be saving some direct implications for a future video ;). Also, you will see a spelling mistake if you pay close enough attention. Do not fear, the editor responsible has been sentenced to 40 lashings.

    - CHECK OUT THE EDITORS !
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    - Thumbnail: usclip.net/channel/UCpCeUlldSsXKRwJvFLYw64w
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    References - Part 1 - Alex
    Angry Joe Video in reference: usclip.net/video/f4IxlTXAz4I/video.html
    Battlefield 1 Trailer: usclip.net/video/c7nRTF2SowQ/video.html
    Battlefield V Trailer: usclip.net/video/fb1MR85XFOc/video.html
    References Part 2 - Lucar
    Good article on Loot Boxes: www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/04/17/ea-now-seems-legitimately-terrified-of-loot-boxes-after-battlefront-2/#f553ec5648e5
    Angry Joe videos on Loot Crates:
    usclip.net/video/ne4CnyNW9O4/video.html
    usclip.net/video/G1Ky9-OoWyo/video.html
    usclip.net/video/bmskOjecEK0/video.html
    Video with corporate commander in:
    usclip.net/video/T78CJ1MRTpk/video.html
    Anger vs Disappointment Study: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103109000912
    References Part 3 - Coleo
    Angry Joe Video in reference: usclip.net/video/f4IxlTXAz4I/video.html
    Battlefield 1 Trailer: usclip.net/video/c7nRTF2SowQ/video.html
    Battlefield V Trailer: usclip.net/video/fb1MR85XFOc/video.html
    References Part 4 - Blunderly
    Angry Joe Response Video: usclip.net/video/O0yDB4xMe8I/video.html
    Soderlund article: www.theverge.com/2018/6/12/17453728/ea-women-in-battlefield-v-backlash-response

    • Comrade J-ME
      Comrade J-ME 4 months ago

      Will you be doing a 250k Q&A ?? One of my top five channels, I'm always fascinated with your analyses!!

    • LightSydeDave
      LightSydeDave 4 months ago

      do you actually GET to your opinion on the matter? or just talk forever?

    • Spectrum Mamba
      Spectrum Mamba 4 months ago

      Remember when you were only 50k?

    • the1tigglet
      the1tigglet 4 months ago

      I'm sorry but I have to agree with the people who didn't buy the game because of the female. At that time, females were only nurses or supply civilians, they were there to help men. There were exactly 0 women in the militaries of any western country and that was due to men being protective of women, war is not pretty it's actually quite gross and horrific. Having women in war situations where their fellow soldiers might have their body parts including their heads blown off suddenly would not have been well taken by the women. I play games for their historical value, I'm sorry but if you included females in a WWI or WWII reenactment that means you are doing it for profit not for any social justice value, and even if you are an SJW you don't deserve to come anywhere near a game that is actually adhering to every other aspect of WWI or WWII history!

    • StuG Life
      StuG Life 4 months ago

      The Right Opinion all I gotta say is 8 real men got written out of their own story with no credit and replaced with two civilian women. If they wanted a woman protagonist, they coulda done Russian pilots or tank crews, historically the Russians used women in various auxiliary roles, such as snipers or vechical crew members

  • Nachtkriecher - SWL - LoL

    Ratios like that on nuanced videos like this mostly happen when you hit a nerve. Nicely done.

  • wraith dino
    wraith dino 3 days ago

    i think the problem is that it just gave off bad first impressions with them tossing out *cosmetics*,*cosmetics* aaand no history why? *BECAUSE SCREW YOU WE NEED MORE COSMETICS* I just left right there and never looked back didnt even notice the other trailers let alone be excited for them because the first one just screamed of a corporation selling there brand fully to cosmetics if it hadnt been the first one i had seen i probably wouldnt have had such a bad opinion of the game as it launched

  • BSienk Art
    BSienk Art 7 days ago

    I legit do not understand what the fuck is going on...why...why people mad at him? I mean I get the tone issue but I....I don't see what he said wrong??? Seems like gamers being huge snowflakes about nothing....? I think this needs to have a bit clearer goal to this video? Cuz I walked away not really sure what was going on...

  • jedidood
    jedidood 8 days ago

    12:02 you are welcome

  • Shater Lemming
    Shater Lemming 13 days ago

    Honestly by this point it should be called TheDrunkjoeShow.

  • Despair Bagel
    Despair Bagel 13 days ago

    How the video should have started:
    "Hey everyone. It's The Best Opinion, a God who is using your free time."

  • mmarlaire
    mmarlaire 19 days ago +1

    There's a certain level of delusion with people who think the main reason the game doesn't sell is because of the female main character. They live in their own internet bubble where everyone is very passionate in either direction about this topic, be it positive or negative. They think because they and their peers are this passionate, every possible consumer is equally as passionate. It doesn't even cross their minds that the vast majority of people don't give a single fuck or are completely oblivious about something they are very much invested in and to a certain extend is a part of their daily life and social interactions.

  • David
    David 19 days ago

    I think the problem with the game have to do with the character being female, but because the context around the game... for example Sony produced a really crappy Gosthbusters movie and their push was that the movie is perfect and if you don't like the movie, then something must be wrong with you. And some few other examples of this at the time... so when this game come out, all we are expecting is another crappy product that we better love or else we are going to get it... and that is exactly how they play it out with the videogame...
    Having a female leader in front of a crappy product don't make that product perfect, and also don't make that product morally superior and immune to criticism... do this few times around and we will start to pick up the trend... we will start to assume that products with female leaders are going to be generally crappy, and they will bully us for not liking the product. The default now is: if they have a female leader you can asume they are compensating for a crappy product, and most of the times this actually ends up being 100% correct.

  • Конрад Дюселдорф

    Angry Joe is an YT icon. He makes mistakes, no doubt, but i think he changed for the better since this video.

  • KreayhesTheSunbro
    KreayhesTheSunbro 21 day ago +1

    I’ve seen about 5 of your vids and my common problem is that they are too long and drag on for far too long without any really attention catching moments. The point you bring up could be done in a quicker and more interesting way. I sometimes get lost in your rambling and start to get confused with what you’re trying to explain because of so much filler
    Anyway nice vids but I hope you improve your style

  • Hugø Gøjibiter irønfist

    Angry Joe just annoys the fuck outta me tbh. Most of the videos I’ve seen from him is just him seemingly disliking stuff because he’s too dumb to understand it

  • L.A. Hauer
    L.A. Hauer 28 days ago

    Angry Joe is so repugnant to me anymore.

  • squirreltastic
    squirreltastic 29 days ago

    I'm still waiting for my historically accurate Finnish female sniper that killed a ton of Nazis or those British female fighter ppilots games

    • squirreltastic
      squirreltastic 29 days ago

      Damn I keep miss remembering orgins of bad assery amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/277779/ Soviet Russia is here with the bad ass women in ww2

    • squirreltastic
      squirreltastic 29 days ago

      My bad I miss remembered she was Ukrainian amp.businessinsider.com/lyudmila-pavlichenko-female-sniper and I want this game

  • Snag Prophet
    Snag Prophet 29 days ago

    Its not just a women in a shooting game, it's a British woman as an member of infantry, during the Second World War, who has also got a prosthetic arm, in a franchise that has been taken mostly seriously and "historically authentic", while pushing a "it's an alt-history" story, while also not actually doing much to even make it "alt-history" other than the fact that a British woman is an "infantryman" in a setting where this never happened.
    A lot of the points just stack up against this game tbh. And I say this as someone who prefers sci-fi and fantasy type shooters like Halo and Overwatch and even other action type games like League which has a vast selection of female champions. I guess the core issue is their vision wasn't right and consistent with their previous installments and this came at odds with their audience, then for some reason pushed the "you hate women" angle despite the points I highlighted earlier that there are already loads of games where you clearly play as women in that no-one has a problem with.

  • See Cha
    See Cha Month ago

    Looks like a clickbait title, based on the comments. THUMBS, MUTHAFUCKIN DOWNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

  • Wolfpack3D
    Wolfpack3D Month ago +1

    So many people with no attention span whining its a long video, long videos like this are for intellectual humans who can appreciate a good vocabulary and not "hah lol 420 no s3ope the bish and yeet him heh heh" (insert stereotypocal gamer 14 year old voice)

  • Scribbles37
    Scribbles37 Month ago

    Wait for a WWII game that focuses less on the western front

  • raionfavorites
    raionfavorites Month ago

    I agree with the point about not being able to convincing people by being angry... but this particular conversation just a very big stretch; the whole thing is just motivated by awful misreading. The Quartening and all the other people making response videos are just misreading Joe, probably even on purpose.
    The Quartening goes on an on about how he didn't like Joe is saying that the game didn't do well because of women and social justice warriors when he's saying the exact opposite of that. Joe presents all these other reasons for which the game can be doing poorly, that is the center of the video, that is the main message: "There are people who don't want women in this game, but that cannot be the sole reason of its limited success, check out all these other variables that may be influencing the sales".
    Joe's message was very clear, it was not confusing at all. Most of the clips I see in the response videos against Joe cut short just before he gives the proper context to his comments. Before he says: "This is not about conservative, right wing or sexist people, its about market practices." Which he clarifies repeatedly.

    And yes, he mocks and makes a caricature of the posture of don't wanting women in games because of sexism, but that posture is ridiculous in itself, and censor the mockery of postures that promote discrimination in the name of "historical accuracy" (which is indeed a fallacy in this case because there were A LOT of women who served in WWII) is something indefensible.
    If you are racist, sexist, homophobic, trans-phobic and you express that online people who think discrimination is wrong are going to mock you and that's their right.
    That it will be more helpful to actually sensible conversation with all the people that hold discriminating beliefs? OF COURSE, but that's an utopia, it is very difficult to change someone's mind with conversations, they usually change it by personal experiences that lead to learning. Either way there's a lot of work to do, and it can't be done in the USclip comment's section
    In the meantime we can just read things correctly and not taking people out of context to serve our purpose of being offended and attack that person. There's a lot real stuff to be offended about, Joe's input on Battlefield V is not one do those things.

  • Wdf1987
    Wdf1987 Month ago

    AngryJoe hasn't ever been good, even if he was popular. Much like Nostalgia Critic. They didn't start that high, but they are definitely near the bottom nowadays, as far as their content

  • Zentra2op
    Zentra2op Month ago +2

    4.4k dislikes and people in the comments complaining that the video is too long, clearly they're not a regular in this channel and their goldfish-like brain can't process the video because its too long lol.

  • voteDC
    voteDC Month ago

    You only got to the topic of the video 10 minutes from the end. It was like you padded things out in order to squeeze in more adverts. It is this sort of action that is sadly driving people toward adblockers.

  • ErgonomicChair
    ErgonomicChair Month ago

    "That Guy with the beard" aka DVS Delrith, AKA Christoph Naumova, is a pedophile who used to prey on autistic teenagers on Secondlife... literally stealing tens of thousands from one such one known as "Urska Jinx" by making him pay sim tier, which is what maps are called on Secondlife, for almost 10 years straight. 2 sims, $680-1200 a month... for 10 years, not to mention commissions for 3D models etc (which he often stole and refused to pay creators).
    Proof? Look up "The Everlasting Snowmew" where DVS Delrith is recorded having skype sex with a 16 year old.

  • Ben Nupp
    Ben Nupp Month ago

    Around 24:28 you got a whole hell of a lot more entertaining. You should grow a pair more often.

  • The Modern Storyteller

    Why are you all suprised?
    At E3 Pete Hines boldly lied to Joe’s face about game features in Skyrim.
    None of this appeared in his review.
    Watching you people acting betrayed by these blatant dicks is like watching the Pompeians acting betrayed by that smoking mountain they lived beside

  • DreamLandBuds
    DreamLandBuds Month ago

    Is Angry Joe not perfect? Yes. Could this video be shorter? Also yes.

  • Banana in Condom
    Banana in Condom Month ago +2

    How was I never subbed to you? Been watching for years and just realised.

    Anyway, I’ve subbed now.

  • Mark Taylor
    Mark Taylor Month ago

    Good video. I've felt Angry Joe has fallen-off the past few months.

  • Great Value Bleach
    Great Value Bleach Month ago

    and then EA hired showmen who was sundering gamers for decades. marketing!

  • AColonDashSix
    AColonDashSix Month ago +1

    He became a shill
    End of.

  • Iciclett
    Iciclett Month ago

    preaching to the quire

  • siggitiggi
    siggitiggi 2 months ago

    The battlefield anger made sense in a way. It was advertised as a historically accurate game.
    What people got were men in normal uniforms with a amputee woman in a non-standard uniform and a prosthetic arm that makes our current ones look insufficient.
    So many were extremely angry about that false advertising so they got angry about it. Then the 'inclusive' people started arguing back that there were women in the war etc and while that was true to an extent none of those groups fit the main character in the trailer.

    I personally love historically accurate shooters and battlefield going back to the days of it being playable sounded great to me. Then I saw the trailer and I haven't bought it. I wont in the future. You can't advertise apples to people and then sell them lemons.. In fact in most places that'd be illegal.

  • Kaas Kop
    Kaas Kop 2 months ago

    "For those who didn’t know, I used to, myself be a fairly political commentator, I intertwined it with media friendly topics, and even covered trending topics from time to time, but I was pretty political. "

    Jesus man, you know you're allowed to use several sentences to express yourself?

  • Richard Carson
    Richard Carson 2 months ago +1

    amount of people who refused to buy battlefield five because "a woman was in it": 0
    amount of people who think there were people who refused to buy battlefield five because "a woman was in it": 100 millon
    intelligent people who think there were people who refused to buy battlefield five because "a woman was in it": 0

  • Konatada
    Konatada 2 months ago

    I personally don't like the female lead in Battlefield because of the historical inaccuracies. If you're going to base your game in WW2 and market it as historically accurate it's not right to censor parts of it and add a woman in a combat lead. (unless she's on the Soviet side or something.) It also felt like they only added the female lead for the sake of controversy.

  • Daniel Santiago
    Daniel Santiago 2 months ago

    Well, the like to dislike ratio and the comment section are a mess...

  • BloomSTRAD
    BloomSTRAD 2 months ago

    The only issue I took to the girl in the game is that she looks too modern. There were indeed women who did fight in WWII (specially in Russia) and there was plenty of room to shape her character into something more believable than a 2010's renegade aesthetic.

  • Eric Billings
    Eric Billings 2 months ago

    Regarding Battlefield 5 and the inclusion of female infantry in the World War 2 imperialist and fascist armies. What's odd to me is that conflict is happening when there isn't any, almost like a strawman argument. I have noticed public speakers and video creators on USclip and other social platforms stating that, "games need to stop appealing to SJW culture." This in reference to the former topic mentioned. This in itself is a contradiction.
    Why? From my perspective as someone who will stand up for justice of others, I don't see how rewriting history to make imperialists seem less sexist contributes anything to the justice of women, to their social justice. They seeked to portray the game in a real 'world' scenario, where real fighting and death occured. They didn't just make up an alternative history or a completely different world, which in doing so might allow for total customization (which is trash in BF5 anyways). No, nobody asked for this. This was just an attempt of a company thinking it understands the common people and wants to appear likeable. It's equivalent to white washing history.
    On a second and related note, they didn't even include the Red Army who actually had women in top combat roles. EA had also removed the hammer and sickle from their emblem creator. So these arguments should make it most clear that there is no Left Wing agenda at play. Just businesses cashing in and getting free publicity from reactionaries who publicly blame social justice worries for this... injustice?
    Ending Question: Why is it considered so taboo to defend the rights, to seek justice, for those who are socially and/or economically oppressed?

  • Alaksandu the Exorkizein

    I miss your old format.

  • Medik is a meme
    Medik is a meme 2 months ago

    I got here from kyzoken's metal gear animated playlist.
    Why is this in it?

  • Reece Shaw
    Reece Shaw 2 months ago

    Saw some Quartering footage in here. That guy just... Generally annoys me. He presents all his opinions as facts.

  • False Feathers
    False Feathers 2 months ago

    I've never really cared for Joe. He's too much of a crazy Leftist.

  • Thievius333
    Thievius333 2 months ago +1

    Let me save you 30 minutes - This video is literally about nothing.

  • NFG_Zacky
    NFG_Zacky 2 months ago

    12:25 theres a good doggo

  • Orangetoast
    Orangetoast 2 months ago

    Jeez stop beating around the bush..

  • nowledge
    nowledge 2 months ago

    second comment; thanks for the content. i appreciate what you want to do and i look forward to seeing you achieve it.

  • nowledge
    nowledge 2 months ago

    could someone who watched the first nine minutes of your video intelligibly explain the subject to a clustering of the masses? imagine i was slowly shaking my head side to side while i asked you that.

  • Nasser Thani
    Nasser Thani 2 months ago

    I am playing Insurgency Sandstorm, Realistic FPS with girls in it. And no one playing that game is complaining, Because the game is fun. And they didn't advertise that there are girls in it. They advertised the gameplay and realistic style of the game.

    There are girls in WW2 and there are girls in the wars to this day, Battlefield Fucked up by making The girl front page and not the gameplay and what they had to offer. We are gamers, We don't care if you put aliens or fckin goats in battlefield. If it's fun. Then i will pay for it.

    Btw TRO, i am new to this channel. And your videos are real good. Keep the shit goin.

  • Aether Toast
    Aether Toast 3 months ago

    Even though this is a long way off I think there was a major thing that you missed about why people got so angry at Angry Joe. The argument at the point of when he did this progressed to be quite a bit deeper than what he realized. Yeah there was those idiots that just didn't want women in the game but they were a small minority of the moron Zerg rush at the start. The corporations statrted maligning people with using just that justification of starting to be abusive/dismissive towards gamers; EA and journalists both. Since consumers were getting tired of that hearing Angry Joe who was supposed to be on the consumers' side parrot how the corporations talked down to them..... well that is why many didn't appreciate that. He basically stepped on a massive landmine without really scouting ahead.

  • sda asda
    sda asda 3 months ago

    boring vid cant watch more than 13min

  • TheSuperSmash97
    TheSuperSmash97 3 months ago

    The dislikes came from the angry joe fanboys

    • Clumsy Clam
      Clumsy Clam 2 months ago

      Oof I dislike it because this wasn't really good video

  • Viper4382
    Viper4382 3 months ago

    Show me one piece of media featuring a strong woman you cuckservatives haven't melted down over. Fuck off!

  • rob mitch
    rob mitch 3 months ago

    To me it really is just the fact they have a katana wielding cyborg. I don't care it is a woman hell I am even fine with a slight twist on history and can ignore the fact that back then. Well anything other then man and woman was not really seen as good and they threw that out in the game. But a cyborg blade wielding ninja is really hard to take in a game that claims to be historic.

    Well that and how many times things in the game seemed to magic so she stays alive because potatoes. I am not saying she should die but with the mass of tanks that turned round her the bombs that blow up just far enough away to push her getting shot with a bullet so powerful she goes flying and it only knocks the win out of her and so on it becomes a spot where it seems you have to bend the rules of your own game just so she is fine.

    "But Carmine from gears" Yes I played that but every time he lived there was a reason and nothing looked like it was trying to ignore him. Shot in the head no wait they nicked his helmet. Fell off a building into fire his armor held. Blew himself up again his armor. "But she" does not live in a magic world of robots and sci-fi with armor that can be any where from paper to +4 invulnerability with hovering drones. If she did then I have zero problems with her.

    Anyway I am off to bed. It is like 3am.

  • Carl TheBraincel
    Carl TheBraincel 3 months ago +2

    At first I thought people disliked because you talked about Joe. But, man. This was long-winded and very repetitive and honestly no point was made. But glad you have improved since

  • Drink Juice
    Drink Juice 3 months ago

    You only mentioned that it's a female. There were rare moments of females in war in the Russian army and others but you completely missed that it was a lady with a missing arm doing all this insane close quarters combat that wasn't at all believable. Joe missed that too. Hell call of duty 2 had female soldiers in the campaign. They certainly had all of their limbs at least. But believe you me there is no way a female on the US Allied forces with a missing arm is going to hold a gun and fight in the way portrayed in the trailer because shed probably be at home.

  • Gel C Oliva
    Gel C Oliva 3 months ago

    he reminds me of the angry video game nerd

  • wisimiwara
    wisimiwara 3 months ago

    Me, My, I'm, I....90% of this video.

  • Chris Manning
    Chris Manning 3 months ago

    Can people just tell why Joe what joe was attacked for?

  • Cactus Vega
    Cactus Vega 3 months ago

    What was this video about again? I kind of stopped following along a few minutes in.

  • bcfb21
    bcfb21 3 months ago

    I didn’t like the trailers because I thought having a prosthetic arm in WWII was stupid. Just like it would’ve been if it was a dude.

  • Knation®
    Knation® 3 months ago +1

    *obligatory comment about how uploader refuses to get to the point*

  • Just Iron
    Just Iron 3 months ago

    I was honestly turned off by the trailer as a whole because it was a clusterfuck and seemed to lack coherency. I was lost and didn't feel like it was for me whatsoever.

  • The Scarecrow
    The Scarecrow 3 months ago +1

    I beated that dislike button harder than my dick.
    Thats all im saying

  • Brand Evans
    Brand Evans 3 months ago

    This comment section is toxic garbage

  • Jpgitters Official
    Jpgitters Official 3 months ago

    *29:39** when the video starts, thank me later*

  • Scott Crosby
    Scott Crosby 3 months ago

    Judging by the comments, I shouldn't bother watching the video. But I will say this.
    I unsubscribed from Joe shortly after that whole Gamergate thing where he generalized anyone who were against the shitty journalists involved as sexist basement dwelling assholes. Seems to me, based on the comments, he's doing the same thing and I'm not surprised in the slightest.

  • The  Toasty
    The Toasty 3 months ago

    8:42
    Yo that dude has a massive fucking chin

  • Charlie Annunziato
    Charlie Annunziato 3 months ago +1

    awesome video! i love how you explain everything for those in the front and those in the back! you legit give all the information necessary to either agree or disagree with you! thank you for all of this!

  • YamsDev
    YamsDev 3 months ago +1

    I personally believe that if you're gonna feature a non-standard protagonist (in this case a woman soldier in WW2) you need to have a compelling, or at the very least believable, reason to do so. Diversity is not, and never will be, a good enough reason on its own. It's lazy, shoe-horned pandering that more often than not attempts to hide poor writing.

    • YamsDev
      YamsDev 3 months ago

      +mahni mahni That is something I did not know. Cheers.

    • mahni mahni
      mahni mahni 3 months ago +1

      I don’t know about anywhere else in the world but nearing the end of the war, many British women actually signed up for war due to there being practically no men left. idk how they did it in the game but it’s not historically inaccurate.

  • Dreyton Mays
    Dreyton Mays 3 months ago +6

    I 100% agree with your point about historical accuracy in video games. I never understood the clamor for realism in games. Like you said, it would be SLOW AND DEPRESSING. Also, why is it that people were okay with people getting shot and then being instantly revived by syringes if they were so married to historical accuracy and realism?

    • Joseph Payne
      Joseph Payne 27 days ago

      because the draw of having a game set in an historic war is that its similar to that war. people didnt like having automatic weapons when they bought a game to have a small experience of world war one. its like if a game was marketed on the premise of being set in ancient greece, but all the weapons were chinese using chinese techniques. its not a game set in ancient greece anymore, so it isnt what most people bought it for. and i think you would agree that thats a fair complaint, no different with this

  • toy chicas lover
    toy chicas lover 3 months ago

    I was expecting this to be the whole fans want the angry reveiws and joe kinda went



    Fuck you

  • toy chicas lover
    toy chicas lover 3 months ago

    What a fucking revelation

  • AllAboardTheDankMemeTrain

    The politics are only a cog in the machine that fucking imploded. It's also the response and the actual product. EA kind of pissed everyone off because they actively called people "stupid and uneducated" and told them not to buy the game. The backlash would have been far less severe if they didn't respond with the equivalent of flipping them the bird and expecting them not to be slightly miffed. Doesn't help that the actual game was lack luster as well from an actual gameplay standpoint.

  • Dr. Stein
    Dr. Stein 3 months ago

    I’ll say the same thing I say on all videos relating to the battlefield controversy. I didn’t refuse to buy it because wahman and essjaydubyoos. I refused to buy it because I’ve been increasingly disappointed with each new battlefield installment since 3 to the point where I absolutely hated 1 and only ended up playing it twice.

    • advancedlamb
      advancedlamb 3 months ago

      5 is very different from 1...and bf4 was better than bf3....so...what?

  • Sal Salcedo
    Sal Salcedo 3 months ago

    I thought soap operas beats around the bush without sense, this video makes a point at the end and it feels anticlimactic. GET ON WITH THE POINT! I get you sound smart and the writing formally explains your background but you make it feel like you are a condescending prick! JEEEZ!

    • Yeontan's Eyebrows
      Yeontan's Eyebrows 3 months ago

      I personally really appreciate the fact he puts so much information into his videos. I like listening to them in the background while doing something. He explores both side's views and gives enough information for both people at the front and at the back, incase someone hasn't heard of the issue before, and explores both facts and his own opinion.
      I have ADD and a fairy short attention span (and no medication for now), but these videos have enough going on to keep my attention and interest. I do however agree that it does take a while for him to get to the point, but I just personally don't mind that

  • William Baker
    William Baker 4 months ago

    Yes he may go a tad extreme but the way the gaming industry is going these days it's required publisher's are walking all over us it needs to stop and being nice clearly is not working

  • Greta mmm boi
    Greta mmm boi 4 months ago

    Ah yes, we all know women were invented after wwII

    • Yeontan's Eyebrows
      Yeontan's Eyebrows 3 months ago

      I don't think that was the point. Women did work for the military during ww2, but not in combat. That point is historically inaccurate, but as mentioned most people don't actually care about that, unless it was an education game or something

  • Dorf Crunklstein
    Dorf Crunklstein 4 months ago

    Holy shit who cares, it's a lady. get over it.

  • HolyDezmondGamez
    HolyDezmondGamez 4 months ago

    Honestly I missed this controversy cause I really dgaf of women in the game. I care more that the game had barely half of the content of Battlefield 1.

  • Kellen Ruppee
    Kellen Ruppee 4 months ago +3

    TRO seems to really enjoy building his stance from the ground up, brick by brick. It's tedious, sure, but I enjoy it. If you want your opinions shovelled to you in 2 minutes by some thoughtless clickbait USclipr, unsub from this channel. You in the wrong neighborhood.

    • Kellen Ruppee
      Kellen Ruppee 3 months ago +2

      +Yeontan's Eyebrows This isn't even close to being the first video that plays out exactly like this. This was a very popular and largely bandwagon topic that seemed to have attracted a lot of brainless newcomers. Seems to be a lot of Joe's audience as well. Not that I expected any more from an audience that finds being pandered to enjoyable. I'm just happy the real fans took the time to keep the like ratio at least positive 😂

    • Yeontan's Eyebrows
      Yeontan's Eyebrows 3 months ago +2

      I completely agree with you. His videos give a broad perspective which I enjoy, but they're interesting enough to keep my attention. I understand some people don't enjoy that, but if that's the case there's no need to click on a video that's 30 minutes long

  • Kellen Ruppee
    Kellen Ruppee 4 months ago

    Angryjoe got backlash because he's a poor content creator who panders to a casual majority and condescends anyone who thinks different from him. At a certain point his character blended with his real personality and when every saw who he really was, it became obvious how nuts this dude actually is. Angryjoe blew up through "hurrdurr cod bad I hate quick scoping, dlc is evil hurr". It was only a matter of time before he slipped up.

  • Nædrin
    Nædrin 4 months ago

    my brain is fried mush.. 😖

  • Inverted V12 Powerhouse

    I didnt like angry joe. I always thought his.. Anger reviews were sometimes even unjustified and he just ranted on small things just to rant.
    And I hated how he yelled about small shit. I avoided him and anybody who used him as reference haha

  • Jay Jay
    Jay Jay 4 months ago

    The game failed because it was a load of history abusing sjw crap stop defending it. People do buy more than one game a year and when some jumped up little prick tells gamers to take it or leave it guess what happens.

    • advancedlamb
      advancedlamb 3 months ago

      I wish conservatives never existed, but as long as human selfishness exists you scumfucks will never disappear.

  • Morgan Campbell
    Morgan Campbell 4 months ago

    The problem wasn't even "muh wamen," it was the fact that EA suddenly latched on and started agenda-pushing out of the clear blue, without warning, very obviously. The presence of a female lead and historical inaccuracy were almost nonexistant problems, and I don't know where Joe and others picked up on that. The problem was that EA tried an obviously forced marketing ploy based on a trend, believing that, based on the statistics and their numbers, it would, for some reason, work. They then learned the hard way that the ploy - specifically and literally telling potential customers "if you don't agree with us and OUR MESSAGE then don't buy our game!!!!" at the climax of the fiasco - didn't work when it blew up in their faces spectacularly, followed by sloppy attempts to fix the issue that just dug their grave deeper. Stop me if you've heard that one before.
    What Joe failed at was not how he approached the topic, but that he had the completely wrong one. He created and complained about a problem that did not exist. The death of Battlefield 5 happened outside the game, not in it.

  • Lovish Landson.U.M
    Lovish Landson.U.M 4 months ago

    Whoa, dude, you made me see something I wasn't seeing in AngryJoe before which he doesn't engage with his fans that even leave beautiful comments to read for him. I left plenty and received none, now on the discussion about a woman being on the battlefield lore timeline is dumb for him not to spend on this because he could have gotten more women followers and "just go with flow baby" the money or for him to rant on it, is weird and why? what? because we are in a new time where of course big lores that were followed back then are now being switched up, I mean look at Fallout76 on how it messes up the lore to make this game happen, and yet it is here.

  • first notion
    first notion 4 months ago

    The worst part about the “historical accuracy” argument is that women were actually in combat during WW2 anyhow. Pilots, snipers, underground rebels etc.

  • Trig_Assassin
    Trig_Assassin 4 months ago

    To lazy to edit something here accept you edited the words to lazy to edit something here therefore you were not to lazy to edit something there

    • Nædrin
      Nædrin 4 months ago

      i think he meant the process of looking for something to edit there.

  • Jmz_x89
    Jmz_x89 4 months ago

    Fucking hell it took you five minutes to stop going on and on about yourself and start talking about the topic.

  • TheDarkestSoul 6
    TheDarkestSoul 6 4 months ago

    was that a kazoo cover of the jojos part 4 opening

  • fishy van
    fishy van 4 months ago

    6:39 battlefront

  • Emo Imo
    Emo Imo 4 months ago

    Is... this a video about Angry Joe making a mistake? About how not to advertise a game? About politics in gaming?
    Thanks to the 2x speed function, I actually managed to watch the whole video, unlike 90% of the people here, but I still have no idea what the heck the point was. Seems like you never really made a point or settled on an argument. And it wasn't really formatted like a research or "news" video.

  • Tron Guy
    Tron Guy 4 months ago

    Man, Joe has been hitting the cheeseburgers lately

  • Lily Wong
    Lily Wong 4 months ago

    AngryJoe is a fucking idiot. I loved his DmC Devil May Cry rant but then I found out he never even played Devil May Cry 4 and he thought that the Devil May Cry 5 trailer was going to be DmC 2. He's a fake ass fan.

  • bleunt
    bleunt 4 months ago

    Man, this video is soooo much about the games. It could be half the lenght.

  • nachosNapples
    nachosNapples 4 months ago

    i think the video is long for the sake of pre blocking questions or confusion on the topic

  • Just xIGoldenIx
    Just xIGoldenIx 4 months ago

    2:56 I see what you did there

  • Oake
    Oake 4 months ago

    Well that's 30 min of my life I won't get back

  • Dagron Sayler
    Dagron Sayler 4 months ago

    Okay. If they wanted females in the games and weren’t pushing an agenda why wasn’t there literally any female characters in Battlefield 1 besides that one chick from Lawrence of Arabia? They’re pushing an agenda onto the players, when they instead should just be focusing on a good game. Nobody cares that “wahmen can be strong 2.”, because we’re not retarded and already know that. You guys set a precedent with Battlefield 1 and how realistic it was, but you completely throw it out the window in Battlefield 5 and that’s the problem here. You decided to flop out of nowhere and nobody likes such changes.

  • CanadianBehelit
    CanadianBehelit 4 months ago

    Just try to get to the point instead of rambling on for too long. I couldn't even finish watching your video because of that. It's like were both having a chat during lunch about an important subject and you bring up many other things, deviating from what we were initially discussing resulting in me no longer paying attention to you or just losing interest in the conversation. That was a bad exemple, but please. Avoid rambling on too much. And I usually have better attention span...