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    www.cdc.gov/measles/about/complications.html
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    www.orau.gov/cdcynergy/web/im/Content/activeinformation/resources/IM_what_would_hpn.pdf
    www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/02/vaccines-are-profitable-so-what/385214/
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  • Papa Stalin
    Papa Stalin 4 hours ago

    Ya what’s the worst that could happen if you don’t vaccinate your kids

    Polio

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 13 hours ago

    Here's one way to get a lot of that aluminum out of your body. _"Removal of aluminium from the body and its reduced absorption by simultaneous administration of silicic acid was tested and proven by Exley et al. in controlled clinical study [59]. They showed reduced urinary excretion of aluminium along with unaltered urinary excretion of trace elements such as iron in persons to whom silicic acid-rich mineral water was administered. Moreover, they documented that regular drinking of a silicon-rich mineral water during a period of 3 months significantly reduced the body burden of aluminium. Similar results were obtained by Davenward et al. [79] who showed that silicon-rich mineral waters can be used as a non-invasive method to reduce the body burden of aluminium in both Alzheimer's patients and control group by facilitating the removal of aluminium via the urine without any concomitant effect. They also showed clinically relevant improvements of cognitive performances in at least 3 out of 15 individuals with Alzheimer disease. This implies a possible use of ortho-silicic acid as long-term non-invasive therapy for reduction of aluminium in Alzheimer's disease patients. The mechanism through which aluminium bioavailability reduction occurs involves interaction between aluminium species and ortho-silicic acid where highly insoluble hydroxyaluminosilicates (HAS) forms are produced [77,80]. This process makes aluminium unavailable for absorption."_
    *_"Biological and therapeutic effects of ortho-silicic acid and some ortho-silicic acid-releasing compounds: New perspectives for therapy"_* - (Jan 2013).
    Jurkić LM, Cepanec I, Pavelić SK, Pavelić K. Biological and therapeutic effects of ortho-silicic acid and some ortho-silicic acid-releasing compounds: New perspectives for therapy. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2013;10(1):2.
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3546016/#B34

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 hours ago

      And the drug Aricept used for Alzheimer's disease is deliberately coated with a coloring material that is high in aluminum even though the manufacturer is fully aware of the link between aluminum and Alzheimer's disease. They don't care. Alzheimer's disease is third leading cause of death in America.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 10 hours ago

      *_"These 3 Mineral Waters Can Remove Aluminum from the Brain"_*
      Spritzer, Volvic and Fiji bottled mineral waters.
      healthysoultips.com/these-3-mineral-waters-can-remove-aluminum-from-the-brain/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 12 hours ago

      *_"Aluminium in brain tissue in autism"_* - (March 2018).
      Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology (peer-reviewed).
      _"Paediatric vaccines that include an aluminium adjuvant are an indirect measure of infant exposure to aluminium and their burgeoning use has been _*_directly correlated with increasing prevalence of autism spectrum disorder (ASD) [11]._*_ Animal models of autism spectrum disorder (ASD) continue to support a connection with aluminium and to aluminium adjuvants used in human vaccinations in particular [12]. _*_We recorded some of the highest values for brain aluminium content ever measured in healthy or diseased tissues in these male autism spectrum disorder (ASD) donors..."_*
      Mold M, Umar D, King A, Exley C. Aluminium in brain tissue in autism. J Trace Elem Med Biol. 2018;46:76-82.
      www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29413113

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 13 hours ago

      Volvic bottled water.

  • BeepBop Boop
    BeepBop Boop 15 hours ago

    On Autism; diagnoses of mental health has gone up. Before they were just classed as dumb stupid or crazy. So yeah there should be more autism diagnoses as with other mental health diagnoses in general.

  • Diahrea till easters
    Diahrea till easters 15 hours ago +1

    Uh..I just got my shot..

    • Egriff123
      Egriff123 13 hours ago

      Diahrea till easters youre fine.

  • The Cleansing
    The Cleansing 16 hours ago +1

    Thinning out the overgrown, useless eater human herd is paramount for a sustainable future. Do your part for the greater good of the favored who will live on. Inject yourselves and your children. Vaccines save lives! (just not your life)

    • The Cleansing
      The Cleansing 4 hours ago +1

      Indeed. The progressive toxification and elimination of the human dross via medical injections is a humane way to preserve the good health of the favored.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 12 hours ago

      Yeah, a brain full of aluminum and mercury is a sure fire way to good health.

  • Albio x
    Albio x 17 hours ago

    why tf would the government want to HELP us though...

  • Matthew Gupta
    Matthew Gupta 23 hours ago

    4:05 only autistic people would be against vaccines

  • sahiel5
    sahiel5 Day ago

    u wasting zour breath + these morrons wont get it
    and its fine higher chance their stupid genes wont be passed on

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 12 hours ago

      *_Packed Sausage_* Human Foreskin DNA injected. Next.

  • RavenousLeech
    RavenousLeech Day ago

    Any person who doesn’t want to vaccinate should be forcibly sterilized 🙂

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 12 hours ago

      +RavenousLeech - you honestly think a brain full of aluminum, mercury, aborted fetal cell DNA, and Human Foreskin DNA is *_"correct"?_* Maybe you need to be sterilized.

    • RavenousLeech
      RavenousLeech 17 hours ago

      Ima Skeptic So?? If the conclusion is correct then it should be forced to prevent ignorance.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      _Argumentum ad baculum_ logical fallacy. Argumentum ad baculum (Latin for "argument to the cudgel" or "appeal to the stick") is the fallacy committed when one appeals to force or the threat of force to bring about the acceptance of a conclusion.

  • Per Stevens
    Per Stevens Day ago

    their fault if their child gets polio

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      That's a False Dilemma Logical Fallacy. False Dilemma is a type of logical fallacy, which is a belief or claim based on mistaken reasoning. False Dilemma is a fallacy based on an "either-or" type of argument. Two choices are presented, when more might exist, and the claim is made that one is false and one is true-or one is acceptable and the other is not. Often, there are other alternatives, or both choices might be false or true.

  • Puipuia Hmar
    Puipuia Hmar Day ago

    Maybe Anti Vaxxers are just afraid of my the needles

  • redlegagent
    redlegagent Day ago

    Thought of the Day: evolution of the false equivalency..........or false dichotomy if you will.
    We see below anti-vaxxer posters engaged in the perpetual whines which always seem to focus along common themes. First and among the more common complaints = "coercion" in vaccination. Mind you in the next breath they then posit another claim = this time asserting supposed mandating of vaccination. So riddle me this folks:
    If something is being mandated = then there are no alternative options involved. Accordingly things mandated do not require coercion as is claimed because of that lack of alternatives. Alternately the reverse is then also true. If something is supposedly being coerced = then it can not be mandated as people by extension have alternatives to vaccinate or not. So it really boils down to people who have a "choice" to vaccinate or not = obviously are not being forced to do so as evidenced by that choice. Schools in the US such as many anti-vaxxers point to indeed require vaccination. Yet there are exemptions to that rule, it is often not rigidly enforced in many places, and parents can opt to homeschool or else seek educational options outside of the public realm as that requirement only applies to the public school system.
    The next theme of late is Ima Skeptic's fixation of "immune activation in pregnancy". Such is the nature of Ima whereby they latch onto some theme for the moment = then post it dozens of times in short order like a child learning a new word or phrase and they want the world to know it. So let's consider the following information:
    There are only 2 vaccines approved for use during pregnancy = Rubella + the annual Flu vaccine. Now most women in the developed world received their MMR series when they were younger = thus there is little need for this vaccine during pregnancy. Now the reason Rubella is allowed during pregnancy - when it is required - when others vaccines are not is because Rubella = can trigger abortion in pregnant women who are not immunized and who then catch it. Flu vaccine is another story people. Flu is inherently dangerous under the best circumstances and kills tens of thousands worldwide each year. What needs to be noted however is that the type of Flu vaccine allowed for use with pregnancy = "inactivated" vaccine - read *DEAD* vaccine. The Influenza virus used is dead so that it can not replicate or otherwise cause problems.
    Moral of the story: so we see yet again with oxymoronic claims which often are contradictory of each other - or - we see deliberate mischaracterization of the facts to create that all encompassing "guilt by association" - otherwise known as innuendo - that the anti-vaxxer movement is famous for. So facts matter............at least for most people.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      Do you want me to tell you why you won't list the side-effects of vaccines??

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      No I don't get paid to post anything. I'm a concerned parent. If you are going to continue your pattern of one Logical Fallacy after another, it just proves your motive to deceive. What are the side-effects of vaccines??

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent Day ago

      6 posts Ima..............really. Are you paid per post by chance??? {chuckle} No rubella is not administered during pregnancy. It can however be administered a month prior - if needed which it rarely is - or immediately afterwards. Yes that was indeed a typo as can happen. It should be noted however that while attenuated vaccines are typically avoided as a rule "just to be safe" = Rubella vaccine has been inadvertently given before to women who did not know they were pregnant with no adverse results.
      What I meant to say is the Pertussis vaccine which is a toxoid vaccine can be given during pregnancy along with the Flu shot. Toxoid vaccines - which are bacterial in nature - tend to lose immunity over time. That is why boosters are needed such as the tetanus booster some people get who are at high risk. A toxoid vaccine only uses the toxin and not the pathogen = thus like the inactivated or dead virus it can not replicate in the body.
      As to your perpetual whine of fallacy.......fallacy............fallacy.............fallacy = really- really boring Ima = seriously. Try to dream up something new.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      When you automatically put me in some kind of conspiracy theory "movement", it's a GENETIC LOGICAL FALLACY!!! It's irrelevant. It's invalid. It's illogical.

  • Rory Weiler
    Rory Weiler Day ago

    2:14 Babies will NEVER do that!!

  • harbinger200
    harbinger200 Day ago

    Who is manufacturing the vaccines? Is there a guarantee that it will not cause autism? Is there a guarantee its effective? Simple questions.
    PS. My god this debunking is really for quite idiotic audience. Its just a pile of bullshit. No mention of autism at all.
    U little shits got money from corporations to advertise this idiotism.

    • Anmoljeet Sidhu
      Anmoljeet Sidhu 22 hours ago

      I hope you are joking

    • Anmoljeet Sidhu
      Anmoljeet Sidhu 22 hours ago

      harbinger200 look the only reason people like you are talking about vaccines and autism is because one guy said that it might happen your putting your child at risk of having serious illnesses so saying that vaccines are harmful is truly idiotic
      Ps the dude was proven to be faking it

  • Niko Ilic
    Niko Ilic Day ago

    Argument 6 is the strongest of the arguments. I feel your video did not truly refute it. As for herd immunity, while it is obviously beneficial to reduce risk of transmission from others this would imply that vaccines do not work. Either it's option A: vaccines do work; great now everyone who gets one will be protected. This is an individual choice issue now, not something to force people to do as it does not harm anyone else. (I understand those who can't get vaccinated are at risk, but is it our job to be their protectors as private citizens (not health employees, doctors, etc. that care for those individuals) or their job to make sure they themselves are safe? This is along the same lines as I should be forced to censor myself so as not to hurt other sensitive people's feelings, it's a ridiculous expectation. Or you could have Option B: vaccines do not work; well it doesn't make a difference if you get it not then now does it? I am still getting my vaccines, but personal choice should triumph over forced complacency. Freedom is about choices, and I rather be a free person in a dangerous world than a prisoner in a safe cell. Looking forward to civil dialogue. Peace!

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert Day ago

      Niko, you have set up a false dichotomy. It is not an all or nothing issue with vaccines: some people cannot be vaccinated for several reasons, and some people who *are* vaccinated do not get a sufficiently strong immune response. However, both are protected by herd immunity. That is, those who do not vaccinate not only endanger themselves, they also endanger a subgroup of people who actually *have* chosen to vaccinate, but are among the unlucky ones where it doesn't work good enough. Note in this respect also that several vaccines require one or more boosters, which means that even those who react well to vaccines still have a time period where they are not fully protected.
      Regarding your freedom-argument, remember that your choices may well infringe on the freedom of others. If you choose not to vaccinate, you risk spreading diseases that affect others. This is not the same as censoring yourself, we're dealing here with actual physical damage that you, willingly, may inflict onto others, unless you actively choose not to participate in society, or only that part of society of like-minded non-vaccinators. The thing is that you already accept that living in a society means giving up certain personal freedoms, or expect that others do so. For example, I am quite certain you stop when the traffic light is red, and implicitly accept others do so, too, when you drive through green.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      _"Anaphylaxis is a manifestation of acute induced scurvy and can be prevented by massive doses of ascorbate. Bee stings, some snake bites and spider bites can be treated with ascorbate. The strep toxin causing scarlet fever and rheumatic fever seems neutralized by ascorbate and these diseases can be resolved in a few hours if treatment with ascorbate is initiated within the first few hours before damage has been done."_ - Robert F. Cathcart, M.D.
      vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/shift.htm
      vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/publications1.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      QUOTE: _"Anaphylaxis is a manifestation of acute induced scurvy and can be prevented by massive doses of ascorbate."_
      *_"Vitamin C: Massive Doses Of Ascorbate: A Paradigm Shift"_*
      breathing.com/blogs/nutrition-and-digestion/vitamin-c-massive-doses-of-ascorbate-a-paradigm-shift

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      The physicians don't even know anaphylaxis is an ACUTE FORM OF SCURVY. That is because they are stupid.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      *_"Vaccines Can Cause Invasive Fungal Infections (Cancer) part 3"_*
      usclip.net/video/3nbmMEluTCU/video.html

  • FlyGuy GbG
    FlyGuy GbG Day ago +1

    My oldest son has high functioning autism.. was born with it but let me blame vaccines i guess 😒😒

    • d4s0n yo
      d4s0n yo Day ago

      then just about everything is a disablility!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      A diagnosis is a medical condition. Some people claim disability for it because they are disabled.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      Autism is simply a *_"diagnoses."_* What is a _"diagnoses?"_ *Diagnoses* - _to identify the nature of (an illness or other problem) by examination of the symptoms. Identify the nature of the medical condition of (someone)._

    • d4s0n yo
      d4s0n yo Day ago

      wtf? so what's wrong with autism? austism people are making the world a better place! look at some people that revolutionary-ed different fields

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      I don't know why they are pushing vaccines on pregnant women. Immune activation during pregnancy increases the risk your child will be autistic or have schizophrenia.
      _"In addition, environmental factors, such as advanced paternal age and maternal infection/immune activation during pregnancy, have been reported to increase risk of both _*_autism spectrum disorder (ASD)_*_ and schizophrenia (SCZ).23,24"_
      *_"Schizophrenia and Autism-Related Disorders"_* - (March 2015).
      Hommer RE, Swedo SE. Schizophrenia and autism-related disorders. Schizophr Bull. 2015;41(2):313-4.
      PMC4332956
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4332956/

  • Mike Taylor
    Mike Taylor Day ago

    You’d be better off just doing dissertations on studies that show the pros and cons of vaccinations so people can decide for themselves rather than ridiculing and belittling those who don’t vaccinate their kids.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      They would NEVER show you the pros and cons. This is a Bill and Melinda Gates sponsored commercial propaganda hit piece.

  • Michelle Ba
    Michelle Ba Day ago

    Do one on ignorant vegans

    • Isaak Yilmaz
      Isaak Yilmaz 11 hours ago

      Michelle Ba Did you know that humans were originally supposed to eat plants and non animal products? However I’m not going to say that meat is bad.

  • Reagan McGehee
    Reagan McGehee Day ago +2

    I have 2 kids both are vaccinated


    They 👏🏻 are 👏🏻 fine 👏🏻

  • Dally White
    Dally White 2 days ago

    I got a vaccine yesterday and I was vomiting all night. Is that supposed to happen? Anyways, I guess it was worth it. Much better than dying of a disease. Great video!

    • d4s0n yo
      d4s0n yo Day ago

      why you hate this video so much?

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      The False Dilemma Logical Fallacy is a fallacy based on an "either-or" type of argument. It's invalid.

  • Daily Funko
    Daily Funko 2 days ago

    Thank you

  • George Alexandru
    George Alexandru 2 days ago

    Flat earth and no vacine!!!wtf :))

  • CodyORB
    CodyORB 2 days ago

    Unfortunately, there's really no way you can convince them. Stupid people will be stupid.

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert Day ago

      It's funny to see Ima fake Skeptic refer to us as "comrades", considering the fact that Russian trolls have been actively trying to create a faux-discussion on vaccine safety online. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45294192

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic Day ago

      No worries. Your comrades _"redlegagent"_ and Marco van de Weert are still here too.

    • Elliette M.
      Elliette M. 2 days ago

      Holy... omg you're still here

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      Compulsory vaccines in order to attend public school in any country is COERCION. It should be considered illegal. A crime.

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

    It's shameful physicians don't even know the medications they prescribe can cause SCURVY.
    *_"Acute scurvy during treatment with interleukin-2."_* (Cancer treatment)
    Alexandrescu DT, Dasanu CA, Kauffman CL. Acute scurvy during treatment with interleukin-2. Clin Exp Dermatol. 2009;34(7):811-4.
    Abstract
    _"The association of vitamin C deficiency with nutritional factors is commonly recognized. However, an acute form of scurvy can occur in patients with an acute systemic inflammatory response, which is produced by sepsis, MEDICATIONS, cancer or acute inflammation. The frequency of acute hypovitaminosis C in hospitalized patients is higher than previously recognized. We report the occurrence of acute signs and symptoms of scurvy (perifollicular petechiae, erythema, gingivitis and bleeding) in a patient hospitalized for treatment of metastatic renal-cell carcinoma with high-dose interleukin-2. Concomitantly, serum vitamin C levels decreased to below normal. Better diets and longer lifespan may result a lower frequency of acute scurvy and a higher frequency of scurvy associated with systemic inflammatory responses. Therefore, increased awareness of this condition can lead to early recognition of the cutaneous signs of acute scurvy in hospitalized patients with acute illnesses or in receipt of biological agents, and prevent subsequent morbidity such as bleeding, anaemia, impaired immune defences, oedema or neurological symptoms."_
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19094121

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 hours ago

      Ad hominem attacks are not _"facts"._ It's a logical fallacy that is irrelevant and makes you sound STUPID. It's puzzling to me why people must resort to using logical fallacies in order to keep their personal view of reality intact.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 hours ago

      +Marco - I asked you quite a few questions and you ignored every last one of them. It seems to me you are an uneducated FOOL.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 hours ago

      +Marco - I haven't seen the first _"fact"_ coming from you. Not one. All you do is play cat and mouse games.

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 6 hours ago

      Whack-whack-whack, but no, the infestation called Ima fake Skeptic keeps on coming back with a flurry of irrelevant posts. In his world, the person who points him to facts and points out his misrepresentations...knows nothing, because who do I think I am, pointing out facts? That's not how the alternative universe of fake Skeptics works!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 7 hours ago

      +Marco - are you a beer drinker? _"A 47-year-old male presented to the emergency department with a progressive onset of confusion, lethargy, anorexia, fatigue, weakness, and a diffuse nonpruritic perifollicular rash. Over the previous 6 months, the patient had lost 5 to 6 kg. He had multiple spontaneous hematomas on his lower extremities. _*_He acknowledged drinking 8 to 10 beers per day._*_ The patient was not taking any supplements or vitamins."_
      _"Late stages of scurvy are more severe and life threatening; common manifestations include generalized edema, severe jaundice, hemolysis, acute spontaneous bleeding, neuropathy, fever, convulsions, and _*_death."_*
      *_"Scurvy - Reemergence of nutritional deficiencies"_* - (2008).
      Léger D. Scurvy: reemergence of nutritional deficiencies. Can Fam Physician. 2008;54(10):1403-6.
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2567249/

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

    Does this mean one-third of Americans have scurvy?? It is alleged that people with metabolic syndrome and Type 2 Diabetes often have *non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.* Allegedly one-third of the population of the USA have it and it is recognized as a contributor of heart disease and may be a type of cardiovascular disease.
    *The Liver in Human Scurvy*
    _"Reviewing the older literature on _*_human scurvy,_*_ it is seen that _*_severe liver disease is a feature._*_ Thus Aschoff and Koch' regarded advanced fatty degeneration of the liver as characteristic. These may possibly have been cases of a more general type of malnutrition. Stephen and Tidswell, however, reported a case of _*_extreme fatty degeneration of the liver in a seven-month-old scorbutic [affected with scurvy] child_*_ who had had a good milk intake from birth."_
    *SUMMARY*
    *_"Scurvy manifests itself in the liver by fatty degeneration,_*_ acute non-fatty hepato-cellular degenerations, massive necrosis and changes in the hepatic reticulin. None of these lesions are prevented by cystine or choline or a combination of them. Some of them are reversible with ascorbic acid replacement."_
    _"Distinct from cystine and choline, ascorbic acid has a primary influence upon hepatic reticulin and collagen formation."_
    *_"The Influence of Ascorbic Acid upon the Liver"_* - (June 1957).
    Willis GC. The influence of ascorbic acid upon the liver. Can Med Assoc J. 1957;76(12):1044-8.
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1823899/pdf/canmedaj00759-0054.pdf

  • dean sharkey
    dean sharkey 2 days ago +1

    the amount of uneducated fools on this post is mind-blowing, vaccine companies cannot be sued for vaccine injuries if vaccines wore safe why would they state on the documentation that they may cause SIDS syndrome amongst a host of other injuries.

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert Day ago

      Dean, registered pharmaceuticals are so much regulated that any reports of some adverse events around the time the pharmaceutical was taken need to be reported as potential adverse events related to the pharmaceutical. They do NOT imply causation. You will thus find cases where a pharmaceutical that is used to treat a condition, and in clinical trials is shown to indeed be functional against that condition...has that same condition mentioned as a side effect. Pain killers, for example, have "pain" as a supposed side-effect, even though clinical trials show they reduce pain better than placebos.
      Causation is simply not implied, despite the fact that even healthcare professionals often make this mistake (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4641349/).
      So, if a child dies of SIDS within some days of getting a vaccination, this will end up in the package insert as a potential side-effect. That same package insert is not allowed to mention that children die of SIDS also in the absence of vaccination, and that no causation is implied.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      Marco van de Weert, who claims to be a scientist, argued with me for days claiming vaccines can't cause scurvy and he was flat out wrong. It's shameful physicians don't even know the medications they prescribe can cause SCURVY.
      *_"Acute scurvy during treatment with interleukin-2."_* (Cancer treatment)
      Alexandrescu DT, Dasanu CA, Kauffman CL. Acute scurvy during treatment with interleukin-2. Clin Exp Dermatol. 2009;34(7):811-4.
      Abstract
      _"The association of vitamin C deficiency with nutritional factors is commonly recognized. However, _*_an acute form of scurvy_*_ can occur in patients with an acute systemic inflammatory response, which is produced by sepsis, _*_MEDICATIONS,_*_ cancer or acute inflammation. The frequency of acute hypovitaminosis C in hospitalized patients is higher than previously recognized. We report the occurrence of acute signs and symptoms of scurvy (perifollicular petechiae, erythema, gingivitis and bleeding) in a patient hospitalized for treatment of metastatic renal-cell carcinoma with high-dose interleukin-2. Concomitantly, serum vitamin C levels decreased to below normal. Better diets and longer lifespan may result a lower frequency of acute scurvy and a higher frequency of scurvy associated with systemic inflammatory responses. Therefore, increased awareness of this condition can lead to early recognition of the cutaneous signs of acute scurvy in hospitalized patients with acute illnesses _*_or in receipt of biological agents,_*_ and prevent subsequent morbidity such as bleeding, anaemia, impaired immune defences, oedema or neurological symptoms."_
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19094121
      They did say _"in receipt of _*_biological agents"._* That means VACCINES too.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      Marco van de Weert thinks he is an expert on vaccines but he can't even name any real side-effects of vaccines. That alone proves their motives. If you don't know the side-effects of vaccines, you are no expert.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      _"redlegagent"_ thinks he is some kind of expert on vaccines yet he is unable to name even one side-effect of vaccines. That is no expert!!

    • dean sharkey
      dean sharkey 2 days ago

      www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/swine-flu-jab-fears-reported-two-years-before-irish-recall-37339557.html

  • redlegagent
    redlegagent 2 days ago

    Thought of the Day: fixating on the past and lamenting the future.
    We see via their innumerable posts here Ima Skeptic recurrently bringing up the topic of vaccinations - or lack thereof - "once upon a time". Depending upon how old someone is = of course vaccinations might have been different in the past. After all = "things change" do they not?? So consider the following.
    www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-history/developments-by-year
    We see above a list of recommended vaccines by decade.
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2681991/
    This study deals with the topic of virology. What is germane here is the scroll table in the study. Note how from the 1970's onward = virology explodes in new discoveries.................why??? Answer: we see in the decade of the 1970's 2 things which really impacted vaccine development going forward:
    1 - development of DNA sequencing technology. This enabled scientists to sequence the viruses which caused illnesses so as to be able to study their protein structure in detail.
    2 - the explosion of AIDS onto the world stage and the subsequent discovery of the HIV virus. That resulted in increased governmental R&D into the problem of AIDS as a result of political pressure = which by extension furthered research into virology in general.
    Moral of the story: we see by the 1980's the development of the first recombinant DNA vaccine = which has revolutionized vaccination science. No more using entire pathogens of old as now only the viral proteins could be used = resulting in the vaccines being tolerated better by people. All of this was of course only possible because we could now sequence the DNA of things like viruses or bacteria or yes...............even human DNA. So "time" like "facts" matters when considering what we see today compared to what we saw in the past. If you don't look at the entire picture = you usually end up with an incorrect perception of what is happening and why. Something new to think about.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      On PubMed. *_"Preventive Effects of Vitamin D on Seasonal Influenza A in Infants: A Multicenter, Randomized, Open, Controlled Clinical Trial."_* - (Jan 2018).
      Zhou J, Du J, Huang L, Wang Y, Shi Y, Lin H. Preventive Effects of Vitamin D on Seasonal Influenza A in Infants: A Multicenter, Randomized, Open, Controlled Clinical Trial. Pediatr Infect Dis J. 2018;37(8):749-754.
      Abstract
      OBJECTIVES:
      _This study aimed to evaluate the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin D for preventing influenza A in 400 infants in a multicenter, randomized, open, controlled clinical trial._
      CONCLUSION:
      _High-dose vitamin D (1200 IU) is suitable for the prevention of seasonal influenza as evidenced by rapid relief from symptoms, rapid decrease in viral loads, and disease recovery. In addition, high-dose vitamin D is probably safe for infants._
      PMID: 29315160
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29315160/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      Marco wants you to think Sodium Fluoride is good for you and Vitamin D is bad for you. There are no requirements for Sodium Fluoride at all in the human body. NONE. Marco claimed Vitamin D was a rat poison like Sodium Fluoride is so that should mean Sodium Fluoride is good for you. That was a False Analogy. A *_false analogy_* is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone applies facts from one situation to another situation but the situations are substantially different and the same conclusions cannot logically be drawn.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      Vitamin D even fights tuberculosis. _"Rather than pharmacological doses given at discrete moments after a patient develops active disease, a constant level of vitamin D sufficiency might be important in the bolstering of resistance to tuberculosis so that the initial response to an inhaled bacillus is optimum at the moment it happens."_
      *_"Tuberculosis and vitamin D: what's the rest of the story?"_* - (April 2015).
      www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(15)70163-5/fulltext

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      This sounds more effective than a flu vaccine without all the filth. _"Vitamin D status appears to influence the risk of developing both upper and lower respiratory tract infections, including pneumonia. Clinical vitamin D deficiency was associated with a 13-fold increased risk of pneumonia in Ethiopian children younger than 5 years."_
      *_"Vitamin D and the Magic Mountain: The Anti-Infectious Role of the Vitamin"_* - (May 2010).
      www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(10)00108-3/fulltext

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      Even if people do get the flu, they can knock it out in two or three days with Vitamin D. Quick fix for those who get the flu. On PubMed. *_"Vitamin D for influenza"_* - (June 2015).
      Schwalfenberg G. Vitamin D for influenza. Can Fam Physician. 2015;61(6):507.
      _"The use of vitamin D as a prophylactic for influenza has shown promise in prevention of illness and reduction of secondary asthma in children. In this study there was benefit for influenza A but not influenza B or the common cold. The mechanism of how vitamin D works for influenza A has been described in the literature._
      _The Institute of Medicine recommendation for adults younger than 70 years of age is 600 IU of vitamin D daily. We are told that this would achieve a level of 50 nmol/L in greater than 97.5% of individuals. Regrettably, a statistical error has resulted in erroneous recommendations by the Institute of Medicine leading to this conclusion and it might actually take 8800 IU of vitamin D to achieve this level in 97.5% of the population. This is a serious public health blunder._
      _A colleague of mine and I have introduced vitamin D at doses that have achieved greater than 100 nmol/L in most of our patients for the past number of years, and we now see very few patients in our clinics with the flu or influenza-like illness. In those patients who do have influenza, we have treated them with the vitamin D hammer, as coined by my colleague. This is a 1-time 50,000 IU dose of vitamin D3 or 10,000 IU 3 times daily for 2 to 3 days. The results are dramatic, with complete resolution of symptoms in 48 to 72 hours. One-time doses of vitamin D at this level have been used safely and have never been shown to be toxic. We urgently need a study of this intervention. The cost of vitamin D is about a penny for 1000 IU, so this treatment costs less than a dollar."_
      PMC4463890
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4463890/

  • Marco van de Weert
    Marco van de Weert 2 days ago

    For our anti-vaxxers here: www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/10/16/17964992/vaccine-autism-book-peter-hotez

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      +redlegagent - I have no reason to hide yours or Marco's comments. I don't even know how. You are full of "conspiracy theories".

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 2 days ago

      There are multiple "hidden" posts here Marco. The thread shows posts = but those posts will not load for the viewer. That *ONLY* happens when someone flags a post = trolls.
      Moral of the story: so we once again see (coincidentally) hidden posts in a thread that Ima Skeptic is lurking on.................this from the same person who swears they do not hide posts. We of course have caught Ima in lies before haven't we. {chuckle}

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 2 days ago

      Oi, *you* are the one worried about eating "PACKED SAUSAGE Human Foreskin DNA"! Looks more like I am playing with a cockroach: no matter how often I whack you on the head with facts, the zombie myths you throw around just don't want to die.

  • Jan R
    Jan R 2 days ago +1

    Please do your research before you buy into bull shit like this! Like we should just trust and believe that all vaccines are properly regulated because they say so even though there are studies and facts that can disprove this showing the amounts for a substance in a vaccine can vary between 7% to 33% due to the manufacturing process even though the label shows a very specific amount or may not be listed at all! Or the fact that this video does not break down the specific types of aluminum that are in the shots like AAHS which can make a difference on how it affects someone's body. Far to long they have continued to pound shit like this into people's heads all well refusing to do the proper research and instead giving us studies that are paid for by pharmaceutical company that all only have one result = VACCINATIONS ARE SAFE!

  • Give me ads This is a living

    Ok but you still haven't covered *whispers* (autism)

    • d4s0n yo
      d4s0n yo Day ago

      +Ima Skeptic ITS NOT A DISABLITY!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      +EvilTheCat - autism a disability. A lifelong disability. And I wouldn't wish a disability on anyone.

    • Evil The Cat
      Evil The Cat 2 days ago

      +Ima Skeptic It seems we have an anti-vaxxer who thinks autism is a nicer way if saying mental retardation. Pester another comments section, please.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      _"There is evidence that in cases of immune deficiency that viruses continue to persist in the body[143,153-155]. The measles virus is known to persist in patients with subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE), measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE)[156] and multiple sclerosis[157]. Since the introduction of measles vaccines, vaccine-associated SSPE has increased in the USA. Furthermore patients with B or T-cell immunodeficiencies have cognitive side-effects[27] and are advised against vaccination due to the risk of severe and/or fatal infection (Merck). That viruses persist in the body and are linked to autoimmune disorders is a feature of rubella virus[158-160], anthrax vaccination[161], hepatitis B[162], etc. There is a reported increased risk of death with combined vaccination DPT and polio[134]."_

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      _"The MMR vaccine has been linked to autism, Crohn's disease, inflammatory bowel disease[142,143] and other serious chronic stomach problems[144], epilepsy, brain damage including meningitis[145,146], cerebral palsy, pancreatitis[147] and diabetes mellitus[148-150], encephalopathy, encephalitis[151,152], hearing and vision problems, arthritis, behavioural and learning problems, chronic fatigue syndrome, diabetes, Guillain-Barre syndrome, idiopathic thrombocytopaenic purpura, subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE), leukaemia, multiple sclerosis, and death."_
      *_"What is regressive autism and why does it occur? Is it the consequence of multi-systemic dysfunction affecting the elimination of heavy metals and the ability to regulate neural temperature?"_* - (July 2009).
      Ewing GE. What is regressive autism and why does it occur? Is it the consequence of multi-systemic dysfunction affecting the elimination of heavy metals and the ability to regulate neural temperature?. N Am J Med Sci. 2009;1(2):28-47.
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

    I don't know why they are pushing vaccines on pregnant women. Immune activation during pregnancy increases the risk your child will be autistic or have schizophrenia.
    _"In addition, environmental factors, such as advanced paternal age and maternal infection/immune activation during pregnancy, have been reported to increase risk of both autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and schizophrenia (SCZ).23,24"_
    *_"Schizophrenia and Autism-Related Disorders"_* - (March 2015)."
    Hommer RE, Swedo SE. Schizophrenia and autism-related disorders. Schizophr Bull. 2015;41(2):313-4.
    PMC4332956
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4332956/

  • Life of a Single Mom
    Life of a Single Mom 3 days ago +3

    Why are your clips making fun of the parents with concerns. I'm anti vaccination because of what they did to my son. I clicked here hoping you could change my mind. But those clips are disrespectful.

    • Life of a Single Mom
      Life of a Single Mom Day ago

      +Sebastian Yap Until his 18 month shots he had a 25 word bank, eat anything you put in front of him, and would make eye contact with you. Shortly after the shots he spiked a temperature of 100.2 for 3 days and was extremely fussy. After that. It took a year and a half and going to a speech thepriest to get him to talk. Such a picky eater now and refuses to any type of meat. And now no eye contact and won't mimic anything we do. He is 3 now. Lucky the school has helped him and he is doing better. My brother had the exact same thing happen to him back on 1995. So I am no scientist but my gut tells me these vaccines injured my brother and my son. I have a 10 month old who hasn't been vannacited and she was a larger vocabulary than my 3 year.

    • Archer530 Gaming
      Archer530 Gaming Day ago

      Sebastian Yap nothing

    • Sebastian Yap
      Sebastian Yap Day ago +1

      What did they do to your son?

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago +1

      +Venkman - your ad hominem attack is invalid. _Argumentum ad hominem_ logical fallacy. (also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
      Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.

    • Life of a Single Mom
      Life of a Single Mom 2 days ago

      Lmao yup no wonder

  • Lacey Heisler
    Lacey Heisler 3 days ago

    Funny. The pharm companies just had to admit to a judge in court that they haven't done one vaccine safety study in over 30 yrs? 🤔 could it be bc they are given immunity anyway so it doesn't matter whether they do the work or not. If this is how you debunk antivaxers, you may want to produce something else.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      +redlegagent - If you don't like the peer reviewed medical literature and studies I post, get them retracted or shut up!!

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 2 days ago

      No Ima Skeptic = *Y-O-U* waste everyone's time here. You provide your childish commentary + your "evidence" is not proof of anything = save for the fact that it shows others you do not understand what credible evidence is. Accordingly you post the same fake claims supported by the same fake evidence which suffers from the same errors in scientific methodology and logic over and over and over again = oblivious to the reality of what I just noted. Enjoy your Matrix Neo. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      +redlegagent - Provide some proof otherwise you are wasting my time. You said nothing.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 2 days ago

      Also Ima - for future reference. FOIA requests are not "fishing expeditions". As such government employees who process those requests will *ONLY* look for information per the parameters stipulated in the request. If there are factual or typographical errors in the request submission = the search will probably turn up nothing. Likewise if requests are submitted to the wrong office = you will likely hit a dead end. So there are many offices which handle FOIA requests at HHS and similar governmental departments. So the request in question must:
      1 - go to the correct office.
      2 - ask for the correct information - specifically what you are looking for.
      www.hhs.gov/foia/contacts/index.html
      If it does not include above = the search will probably turn up nothing as happened here. The Congressional committees cited in the FOIA request changed their names and responsibilities 2 years after the Vaccine Act was signed into law. Also as my link shows = there have been lots and lots of reports generated by HHS over a period of years which are germane to the topic of vaccine safety.
      Moral of the story: all your FOIA request letter proved what the RFK jr. organization was most likely asking for the wrong things = thus the employee who entered the database search based upon that request found nothing. That however *DOES NOT* prove there was nothing...............it merely shows that the search parameters used were probably incorrect. Naturally as I noted the group submitting the FOIA request was not concerned about that fact.................merely generating responses such as you and Lacey showed here. You have a hook through your nose and are being led around = and you apparently do not even care.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 2 days ago

      Your latest link Ima did nothing more than validate what I previously noted. The lawyer in the TAC piece - which is little more than a fringe Libertarian organization - is tantamount to an ambulance chaser seeking new prospective customers. As such he wrote an *OPINION PIECE* in TAC to cater to likeminded Libertarian-leaning readers.
      www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/sdut-vaccine-lawsuit-sd-pulled-2016sep01-story.html
      As the article above demonstrates = your lawyer was involved in a vaccine lawsuit against a bill in California...............only to then summarily pull out of the lawsuit. That is exactly as what I noted before = groups filing charges or making claims that come to naught..............save for to raise awareness and allow some to profit from those claims via new lawsuits and fundraising activities.
      It is a virtual industry that is largely seen today in America on the conservative side of the spectrum as many "economic conservatives" such as populate the American Right follow the ideological mantra of _Profit Uber Alles_ = thus anything that furthers putting money into their pockets is okay by them no matter who gets used in the process. Something new to think about.................or not. {chuckle}

  • Divya Ashish
    Divya Ashish 3 days ago

    Probably ima skeptic

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

    What is *"vaccine failure"?* _"...two other boys with measles were live _*_vaccine failures."_*
    Welliver RC, Cherry JD, Holtzman AE. Typical, modified, and atypical measles. Arch Intern Med. 1977;137(1):39-41.
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/831653

  • redlegagent
    redlegagent 3 days ago +3

    Anatomy of the deductive fallacy: Ignoring your own sources.
    We see below one of the innumerable posts by Ima Skeptic. In this one Ima both cites conspiracy theory from a garbage online website known for pushing that twaddle + Ima then demonstrates how they suffer from cognitive dissonance as well as the confirmation bias I noted before. Here we go folks:
    _QUOTE: "Small amounts of residual cell substrate DNA unavoidably occur in all viral vaccines as well as other biologics produced using cell substrates. There are several potential ways DNA could be a risk factor. DNA _*_[can be]_*_ oncogenic or infectious; in addition, it _*_[can]_*_ cause insertion mutagenesis through integration into the host genome. A major concern about residual cell-substrate DNA has been the _*_[potential for]_*_ the induction of cancer, particularly _*_[if]_*_ the DNA was from a tumorigenic cell or from a cell line established from a human cancer." Cell Lines Derived from Human Tumors for Vaccine Manufacture". Talk about corrupt!!"_
    Ok folks. Note what Ima Skeptic cut & pasted - I disregarded the garbage about the mysterious _"Dr. H."_ {chuckle} First off is see all of those "qualifiers" = can be, if, potential for. Those are telling the reader that is what claimed is *HYPOTHETICAL* - not fact. Yet as always happens = anti-vaxxers applying confirmation interpret what was claimed as fact when that has not been established. So let's move on shall we. Below is from a study that *IMA SKEPTIC* posted earlier - one they claim supported the anti-vaxxer position "of the time".
    _"Gene-shuffling was performed to _*_avoid the risk of inducing malignant transformation_*_ at the vaccination site. Here, we describe the _*_preclinical safety evaluation of these candidate vaccines by analysis of their transforming capacity in vitro using established murine fibroblasts (NIH 3T3 cells) and primary human foreskin keratinocytes (HFKs)._*_ We demonstrate that _*_neither ectopic expression of TTFC-E6SH and TTFC-E7SH alone or in combination enabled NIH 3T3 cells to form colonies_*_ in soft agar."_
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22554465
    There you go folks. What above states is that the study was analyzing possible vaccine candidates by assessing their ability for *malignant transformation* = MUTATION!! It goes on to state the candidates did not display _"ectopic expression"_ = a medical way of saying they did not mutate as ectopic cells are abnormal cells such as form tumors.
    Moral of the story: so we see anti-vaxxer trolls such as Ima Skeptic and others who only see the pieces of the puzzle they want to see as they ignore the totality of what is being discussed. That can result as we see above = self-contradictory posts as one claim is undermined by a different claim. Vaccine cell lines are chosen based upon their ability to not foster the mutation referenced in the initial cut & paste as the prior study Ima Skeptic posted shows. They as well as the substances used are screened to prevent this from happening = thus more innuendo and misrepresentation by anti-vaxxers to sow fear among those not versed in science to recognize the misdirection. It is painfully obvious that people like Ima Skeptic are simply making this up as they go along. Better luck next time anti-vaxxers. {chuckle}

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      +EvilTheCat - so you are just trolling for fun?? Like _"redlegagent"_ is trolling?

    • Evil The Cat
      Evil The Cat 2 days ago

      Skedattus, skedeetus, yeetus Ima Skeptic as a fetus.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      Compulsory vaccines in order to attend public school in any country is COERCION. It should be considered illegal. A crime. In law, coercion is codified as a duress crime. Such actions are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in a way contrary to their own interests. Coercion may involve the actual infliction of physical pain/injury or psychological harm in order to enhance the credibility of a threat. The threat of further harm may lead to the cooperation or obedience of the person being coerced. Calling people "anti-vaxxers" who oppose mandatory vaccines or who have vaccine injured children is "emotional blackmail", which typically involves threats of rejection from or disapproval by a peer-group, or creating feelings of guilt/obligation via a display of anger or hurt by someone whom the victim loves or respects. In many respects what we have here is a form of psychological warfare going on in order for the vaccine industry to get their way.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      You - _"anti-vaxxer movement"_ = *_"Genetic"_** Logical Fallacy.* The genetic logical fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue) is a fallacy of irrelevance where a conclusion is suggested based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      You - _"rabidly pro-life religious fanaticism"_ = _Argumentum ad hominem_ logical fallacy. (also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
      Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.
      Also *_"Genetic"_** Logical Fallacy.* The *genetic* logical fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue) is a fallacy of irrelevance where a conclusion is suggested based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context.
      Your Logical Fallacies prove you can't even be logical in the discussion of vaccines. Your arguments are *INVALID.*

  • Creeper Catgirl
    Creeper Catgirl 3 days ago

    the only efect i'v ever gotten is a small iratation, and my arm is harmlessly larger, i'm not sure why but it did

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      Twenty-three-year-old Sydney Rich of Oklahoma City lapsed into a coma three months after receiving the flu vaccine and has never fully recovered. Today, she is in a wheelchair and has difficulty moving the left side of her body.
      www.naturalhealth365.com/vaccine-dangers-flu-shot-1431.html

  • Shadow Lynx
    Shadow Lynx 3 days ago

    I can't have flu vaccines because I am allergic to something in them I forgot what is was. But i don't get vaccinated because I am allergic to something in it not because my parents just didn't believe in vaccination.

  • The Dilda Four
    The Dilda Four 3 days ago +1

    Already 40 seconds into it and this video's arguments against the mass of individuals who understand the absurdity of vaccination; are honestly as ignorant as it could possibly get and ...in all reality it's sad as hell that people actually believe this propaganda. I'm sorry, but comparing the potential toxicity of something like "water" (something that is literally essential to carbon based life) with chemicals that are placed in flu vaccines(shit that we don't need in our body in the first place) is laughable. It makes me feel stupid that there's a video like this on youtube made by the same species as me. AND THEN to arrogantly argue that the compound "Thimerosal" was just recently taken out of vaccines like 7 years ago after it was clearly called out for being something that people should definitely not consume??....
    TURN OFF THIS TREMENDOUSLY MISLEADING, FALSLY INFORMING PROPAGANDA. PLEASE.
    BE HEALTHY AND KEEP YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM AT A HIGH LEVEL NATURALLY SO YOU DON'T GET SICK. END OF STORY.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      +redlegagent - do you eat human beings for breakfast? It takes _"cannibalism"_ to a whole new level !! Maybe you will get a prion disease.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 3 days ago

      See Marco how when anti-vaxxers lack scientific evidence = all they have left in their quiver is trite commentary one would expect from a 5 year old. This mind you from no less than Ima Skeptic who regularly laments loud and long how no one supposedly wants to discuss vaccinations with them...............and the above post demonstrates the level of that discourse. So this is what Ima = the 200th time you've posted that childish comment in the past few days. What's that matter...............running out of commentary. LMFAO!!!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      +Marco - do you eat human beings for breakfast???

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 3 days ago

      Is human foreskin fibroblast (ah, that little detail was ignored by the fake Skeptic) DNA different from the DNA in any other human cell?

  • e x
    e x 3 days ago

    Can someone explain to me why vaccines are a bad thing? Judging from this video, they seem to be pretty important.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 2 days ago

      _"The vaccine-industrial complex has created a Kafkaesque system. _*_From the passing of the legislation in 1986, the process has been rigged, one major step at a time, in favor of the vaccine-industrial complex._*_ Policy makers nationwide are yearning, with financial support and lobbying from the pharmaceutical industry, for mandatory vaccination. Before further compulsory vaccination legislation passes-on a state or federal level-the failure of the VICP must be acknowledged and properly addressed. The VICP creates a classic moral hazard, granting immunity from suit to the vaccine industry while providing insurance against any loss. The vaccine-industrial complex has become a thriving giant; according to a 2013 report presented by the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, _*_nearly 300 vaccines were reported to be in development. Its lobbying money drives agency denial of the reality of vaccine injury, which in turn permeates policy decisions in a sinister fashion."_*
      *_"The ‘Vaccine Court’ Is Hazardous to Your Health"_* - (March 2017)
      www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-vaccine-court-is-hazardous-to-your-health/

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 3 days ago

      _"redlegagent - you - "anti-vaxxer trolls who do not understand it application". Do you think "lawinsider dot com" understands what "unavoidably unsafe" means?? Or just YOU??"_
      For someone who claims to be from the US Ima = you really are ignorant of the English language aren't you. I have recommended you subscribe to some reading comprehension course in the past if you recall.
      So read what I posted.........then read your legal definition = same thing. It states that "some aspect" of a product can not be made safe = meaning that there will always be people who may be allergic and/or have some preexisting health condition which predisposes them to adverse reaction. When people are vaccinated they usually are advised to watch for adverse reactions and may be given an information sheet. Also everything you could ever want to know about vaccines is posted online as it is public information = those pesky MSDS sheets that Marco referenced in previous posts + information at the CDC and manufacturer websites.
      Last point. You keep citing a lawsuit that the plaintiff lost..................I hope you realize that. Bruesewitz *LOST* that case you have cited multiple times now. That of course is always the risk when BS allegations are tried in court. You'd think that anti-vaxxers would have caught on by now and stopped wasting money on these frivolous lawsuits. _C'est LA Vie_

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      _"It took a great actor-salesman like Ronald Reagan to sign away the legal rights of the vaccine-injured and make it seem somehow palatable, at least to millions of people not paying attention. Later, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that vaccines are “unavoidably unsafe.” - Bruesewitz v.Wyeth LLC, 131 S. Ct. 1068, 179 L. Ed. 2d 1 (2011). At the same time (the hand quicker than the eye), the same high court also affirmed that drug companies should be vaccinated against state civil liability lawsuits filed by vaccine-injured children or the survivors of those children killed or injured by vaccines. The so-called “vaccine court” remains a possible avenue of compensation, but 80% of the cases filed there are turned back by the court, which is not really a court at all but a shadowy government tribunal unaccountable to the light of constitutional law."_
      www.dmlawfirm.com/vaccines-unavoidably-dangerous-safe/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      +redlegagent - you - _"anti-vaxxer trolls who do not understand it application"._ Do you think _"lawinsider dot com"_ understands what _"unavoidably unsafe"_ means?? Or just YOU??

  • Jordy92243 !
    Jordy92243 ! 4 days ago +1

    Vaccines kill people dumb shits

  • Sqauree
    Sqauree 4 days ago

    Scenario: *You have 2 choices at the bottom*
    1.Have *AUTISM*
    2.Have *Measles, other lethal diseases*
    Like for 1, comment for 2.

    • Sqauree
      Sqauree 3 days ago +1

      Hello, Ima Skeptic! Everyone's looking for you!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      That is a _False Dilemma_ Logical Fallacy argument.

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

    We have _"redlegagent"_ from a country who knows where ridiculing not only Republicans but President Donald Trump. That takes some unmitigated gall. _"redlegagent"_ doesn't even have compulsory vaccines in his own country but insists we should have compulsory vaccines in the USA which we already have!! Maybe we should just have _"redlegagent"_ replace President Donald Trump?!? Would Americans be game for that?? I'm not game but I am curious to know how this group thinks.

    • Evil The Cat
      Evil The Cat 3 days ago

      nein

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      _"Consumers already concerned about vaccine dangers are likely to find little reassurance in recent reports that Food and Drug Administration (FDA) officials are giving vaccine manufacturers the green light to use human cancer cells to produce future vaccines."_
      _"But, the big question to ask is ‘why?’ The FDA, with this approval, shows no regard for basic safety issues."_
      *_"FDA approved: Human cancer cells added to vaccines"_*
      www.naturalhealth365.com/vaccine-dangers-cancer-cells-1238.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      What do you think about the cancer cells used to make vaccines?? _A transcript, from a September 19, 2012 meeting of the FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) within the agency’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER), reveals misgivings even among the experts as to the safety of vaccines manufactured from human cancer cells. A committee member identified in the transcript only as ‘Dr. H’, from the University of North Carolina, is quoted as stating, “I’m guessing the safety concerns we have are ones that you typically wouldn’t observe in humans on the time scale that a Phase I trial takes place on… We are worried about these vaccines causing cancer in people many years down the road, well beyond the conclusion of the Phase I study.”_
      QUOTE: _"Small amounts of residual cell substrate DNA unavoidably occur in all viral vaccines as well as other biologics produced using cell substrates. There are several potential ways DNA could be a risk factor. _*_DNA can be oncogenic or infectious; in addition, it can cause insertion mutagenesis through integration into the host genome._*_ A major concern about residual cell-substrate DNA has been the potential for the _*_induction of cancer,_*_ particularly if the DNA was from a tumorigenic cell or from a cell line established from a human cancer."_
      *_"Cell Lines Derived from Human Tumors for Vaccine Manufacture"._* Talk about corrupt!!
      whale.to/v/FDA%20Briefing%20Document%20Sept%2019,2012.pdf

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      Do you think Richard Pan would make a good US President? Richard Pan said, _"You know what's the most dangerous substance in vaccines?" "Water!" "More children die of water toxicity, than anything else that's in the vaccine!"_
      You believe that, right?? "Water"??

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      How do you feel about Robert F Kenney Jr.? Do you like him or hate him?

  • alf jon hansen
    alf jon hansen 4 days ago

    Very cool video!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      Bill and Melinda Gates sponsored commercial propaganda hit piece!!

  • Corey Playz
    Corey Playz 4 days ago

    NEWS FLASH: Ima is LITERALLY trolling pepole saying like on my comment “Just Stop Ima” And he is saying that OMG DO YOU EAT CANCER FOR BREAKFAST? And COREY IS INGECTING DNA FROM A PACKED SASAGUE AND HE IS CALLING ME A NAZI.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 4 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic I’m not the legal age for alcohol.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Corey Playz - do you drink alcohol?? I don't.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 4 days ago

      just stop doing everytime you see a pro vax comment take a drink challenge

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Corey - Everything I've said to you was relevant to vaccines. The things you say are not.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Corey - what is that supposed to mean?

  • Elizabeth Franco
    Elizabeth Franco 4 days ago

    read the book!!! the autism book

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Corey Playz - Pediatrician Richard Pan said, _"You know what's the most dangerous substance in vaccines?" "Water!" "More children die of water toxicity, than anything else that's in the vaccine!"_
      You believe that, right?? "Water"??

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      Aborted fetal cells, serum from aborted calf fetus blood, cells from Armyworms, cells from monkey kidneys, cells from dog kidneys, mouse brain, chicken embryos, human foreskin, and cancer cells to make vaccines. Try adding that to your Coco Puffs each morning.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      Vaccines take the words _cannibalism_ and _filth_ to whole new levels !!!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Corey - what did this video tell you about the Human Foreskin DNA, the Aborted Fetus DNA and Human Cancer Cells being used to manufacture vaccines??

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      _"Consumers already concerned about vaccine dangers are likely to find little reassurance in recent reports that Food and Drug Administration (FDA) officials are giving vaccine manufacturers the green light to use human cancer cells to produce future vaccines."_
      _"But, the big question to ask is ‘why?’ The FDA, with this approval, shows no regard for basic safety issues."_
      *_"FDA approved: Human cancer cells added to vaccines"_*
      www.naturalhealth365.com/vaccine-dangers-cancer-cells-1238.html

  • Celia Stone
    Celia Stone 4 days ago

    I'd rather get autism than polio

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 4 days ago

      I would be deaf then DEAD.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      When you reason from an *either-or* position and you haven't considered all relevant possibilities you commit the fallacy of *false dilemma.*

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      *_"False Dilemma Logical Fallacy"_* right here.

  • Magrat Knoblauch
    Magrat Knoblauch 4 days ago

    Why does the unvaccinated 4 year old cry? Because it has a midlife crisis.

  • Meow Dosenotcare
    Meow Dosenotcare 4 days ago

    Hewwo?????? Ima skeptic is somewhere. They are far to deicated at shutting asapscience down, and i feel like they nedd some support bc they lost their job missing all those days of work writting comments. Find a pation to support them at
    Www.idliketoinvertyourribcage

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 3 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic Maybe repeat opinions then we will leave you alone.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Corey Playz - I'm the person trying to discuss vaccines. I'm not even sure what you are doing other than screaming _"Stop", "Stop"_ like I'm disclosing the skeletons in your closet.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 4 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic KEEP TROLLING, IT MAKES IT *worse*

    • Meow Dosenotcare
      Meow Dosenotcare 4 days ago

      +Ima Skeptic This video is abt asapscience. Thus you are shutting asapscience down abt vacines. If you sued mcdonalds about raw meat, youd be sueing mcdonalds not sueing raw meat.

  • Jonathan Dominguez
    Jonathan Dominguez 4 days ago

    I can see in all thrif world countries with no vaccines have many diseases. Im glad they make you vaccinatr before going to school. I don't want to go to school with someone with no vaccines

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      Assuming you will automatically have diseases if you aren't vaccinated is a _False Dilemma_ Logical Fallacy. _"A false dilemma fallacy is a logical fallacy in which a limited number of possible options are presented when, in truth, more options may be available. Such a fallacy might suggest that one needs to choose between "A" and "B," when in fact choices "C" and "D" are also perfectly valid. In many cases, this argument presents two choices at the extremes of the possible options, thereby omitting a range of possibilities between the extremes. In such cases, the false dilemma fallacy is often referred to as the "excluded middle fallacy." Many times, such a fallacy is used to present one option that is clearly better than the other in order to make the better option in the argument seem like the best option overall."_ So your argument is invalid.
      *"Knowing that total health equals immunity is a basic key to understanding that vaccinations are unnecessary and ineffective.* The most important factor in a fully-effective immune response is general good health characterized by a clean bloodstream coupled with a nutrient-rich diet. Immunity to pathogens is dependent upon a complex response of the body’s cells which may-or may not -include the production of antibodies. It is clear that immunity does not come from antibodies or even ‘memory cells’, although memory cells may play a small part in the much larger processes of protecting health. If a person is healthy, first time natural exposure to a virus does not necessarily result in disease. *In fact, the majority of first time exposures result in no symptoms but do result in ‘antibodies’ which ‘prove the exposure’ but also prove that immunity was present before the exposure."*
      www.proliberty.com/observer/20080110.htm
      This is most IMPORTANT quote on the internet today! The National Institutes of Health says, *_"In healthy individuals pathogens cause no disease."_*
      HERE'S THE FULL QUOTE: _"Researchers found, for example, that nearly everyone routinely carries pathogens, microorganisms known to cause illnesses. _*_In healthy individuals, however, pathogens cause no disease; they simply coexist with their host and the rest of the human microbiome,_*_ the collection of all microorganisms living in the human body. Researchers must now figure out why some pathogens turn deadly and under what conditions, likely revising current concepts of how microorganisms cause disease."_
      www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-human-microbiome-project-defines-normal-bacterial-makeup-body
      That was 2012.

  • Dimmadab
    Dimmadab 4 days ago

    do these people realize all natural doesnt mean non toxic or safe and unnatural doesnt mean toxic or unsafe, cyanide and arsenic are all natural and extremely toxic. i have asd aswell i dont have such a bad case it can get bad but i dont have it so bad even if that paper about autism is true asd is better than dying or living with polio for the rest of your life (how ever long that might be with polio)

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      We know a lot of natural compounds are not safe. So you just babbled on about botulism for nothing.

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 3 days ago

      *You* started to babble about LD50 values in response to someone talking about natural =/ non-toxic or safe. I just added some further tidbit of information that shows the most toxic compound known to man is a natural compound, found in abundance all around us all the time.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      +Marco - are you putting dirt in your Coco Puffs or what???

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      +Marco - I just don't understand what point you are trying to make here. _"The first case of botulism was recorded in the 18th century, and it was linked to consumption of sausage, from where it derives its name (botulus is Latin for sausage). There are mainly three kinds of botulism namely, infant, food-borne, and wound botulism. Infant botulism is generally caused when babies accidentally ingest soil that has been infected with clostridium botulinum, or consume honey, a food item in which this bacteria thrives. Food-borne botulism (also called food poisoning) is caused due to consumption of canned foods which have not been canned properly or which have very less acid content. Wound botulism is caused when the bacteria infects a wound on a person's body and is more prevalent among drug addicts who use heroin and cocaine, which may contain traces of the bacteria. The bacteria produce spores which, on entering a person's body, continue to grow and produce neurotoxins, which in turn affects the functioning of the nervous system, and in severe cases results in paralysis."_
      _"Honey is said to be a carrier for the spores of clostridium botulinum, and if consumed by babies less than a year old, is a major source of infant botulism. As a rule, infants should not be given honey, or any food containing honey."_
      healthhearty.com/how-to-prevent-botulism

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      +Marco - Yes, it is in the soil.

  • hugo sinclair
    hugo sinclair 4 days ago

    the cringe is real in the comments lolz

  • redlegagent
    redlegagent 5 days ago +1

    Anatomy of an anti-vaxxer lie.
    We see below some posts by the avatar Ken Su - who coincidentally posted similar anti-vaccine posts on other vaccine videos. In those posts we see a link to a video clip by Paul Offit. Now that video link only gives you a very short snippet of Offit speaking. That "selective editing" of course is the soup du jour for the anti-vaxxer community who only takes pieces of information they feel reinforce their anti-vaxxer agenda = and disregard all other evidence and context. So here is the actual video - rather silly to believe it could not be found by the way. The discussion which centers on parents of children diagnosed with autism and how doctors can handle that situation begin at 16 minutes into the video. Offit offers up the snippet Ken Su posted at about 23 minutes in.
    usclip.net/video/07v0Yp05snA/video.html
    So we see the entire context of what Offit was referencing as he was discussing scientific methodology which basically says: there is always more evidence to be found so that you never make declarative statements per se. What is important is the doctors discuss the *DOZENS OF STUDIES* done over the years which looked at multiple aspects of autism and vaccination = and there was *NO CORRELATION* between autism and vaccines.
    Moral of the story: so we see yet again how anti-vaxxers lie and misrepresent things as the edited video Ken Su posted shows = they lie ----------> they lie often ----------> they lie repeatedly. If they have to misrepresent and lie so much.............what does that really then say about the anti-vaxxer agenda???????????? Something new to think about.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      Of course you can completely ignore and side-step the majority of my comments... as you usually do in order to market your vaccines and play cat and mouse games. So the answer is yes, they do use Human Foreskin and Aborted Fetal Cells to make vaccines. Glad we cleared that up.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 4 days ago

      Ima Skeptic. I of course recognize that your entire existence here posting is to sow anti-vaxxer disinformation + fill some apparent emotional need by glomming onto what others post. That however does not excuse you from "thinking" - despite your desperate attempts to not do so. To expect otherwise would frankly be a disservice to the human species of which you are part = regardless of your puerile antics here.
      Moral of the story: the entire "foreskin" argument that anti-vaxxers such as yourself push on the internet = one gigantic red herring which *ONLY* appeals to people who are woefully ignorant of science.................woefully, and abjectly ignorant. Viruses are parasitical by nature = ergo they require host cells to replicate. HPV as I already noted = *SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE!!!!!!!!!!* Sexually transmitted viruses = replicate in the cells of the genital area.
      So there are countless millions of people already infected with HPV in the world = so many that it is not worth the time and resources to try to test everyone. *ALL* of those people - *A-L-L OF THEM* = infected with HPV virus that was grown from..............................yup............................penile and vaginal cells!!!! That means they *ALREADY* have been introduced to "those cells" anyways should they become infected with HPV.
      So the virus used to create the HPV vaccine = grown in a purified cell line of the type of cells it naturally infects anyways. Only an utter full-on retard could not grasp what I just wrote. Please practice your idiocy elsewhere Ima Skeptic as trying to discuss anything with you is like arguing with a 5 year old. {chuckle}

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +redlegagent - Are we getting any prion diseases, also known as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, from any of these aborted fetuses used in the manufacturing of vaccines?? Yes or No??

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +redlegagent - Are aborted fetuses used to make vaccines? Yes or No? It's real SIMPLE. What is the difference between ingestion and injection? QUOTE: _"Vaccines manufactured in _*_human fetal cell lines_*_ [aborted fetuses] contain unacceptably high levels of _*_fetal DNA fragment contaminants._*_ The human genome naturally contains regions that are susceptible to double strand break formation and _*_DNA insertional mutagenesis."_*

  • Constance Condit
    Constance Condit 5 days ago

    Measles to brain fever to epilepsy...my ex - husband before vaccines.
    Strange that an ignorant actress named Jenny McCarthy could cause so much death with just a couple of fact-less books. Soon these kids will start traveling without the protection of vaccines, and that will be that.
    People died like flies when I was a small child before vaccines were developed.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      Are you assuming everyone knows who Jenny McCarthy is? She also wrote a book? And you think every person who opposes mandatory vaccines read it? That is pretty illogical. Now you found one person to blame everything on and that makes you feel better?? You won't blame it on consumer backlash created from an "unavoidably unsafe" product. How odd.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 5 days ago

      People who are ignorant of science in general = predisposed to believe "pseudo-science" such as is ubiquitous on entertainment TV and the internet today. Pseudo-science is nothing more than a bastardization of real science where they fail to apply acceptable scientific methodology to arrive at their conclusions + they mix in their preexisting ideological bias toward vaccination in general to create a BS analogy which is pushed by people like McCarthy.
      Moral of the story: I also remember the world "that was". This is what happens when people grow up in a world where infectious diseases are rare or nonexistent - thanks to vaccines = so that they lack that personal tie to the way things used to be which becomes abstract in their minds. Children often forget the hard-learned lessons of their grandparents..............it's human nature.

  • Anonymous Ross
    Anonymous Ross 5 days ago +1

    I got my vaccines last weekend

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 hours ago

      *_"Polyethylene glycol (PEG) is made from ethylene glycol (ethane-1,2-diol), the main ingredient in antifreeze._*_ When ethylene glycol (molecular weight, 62.07) polymerizes, reacts with itself (in water), the reaction yields a variety of products containing varying numbers of ethylene glycol units. These products are all called PEGs. The general molecular formula for PEG is H(OCH2CH2)nOH, where n represents the number of ethylene glycol units contained in the PEG polymer. PEGs have many industrial, food and pharmaceutical uses."_
      sciencing.com/polyethylene-glycol-2507.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 hours ago

      Here's the sugar-coated version. You prefer to have it sugar-coated, right?? _"The claim of antifreeze being in vaccines comes from the use of polyethylene glycol in one brand of the flu vaccine to inactivate the virus. It is also used to purify certain vaccines. But polyethylene glycol is not antifreeze; it is just a component that is found in antifreeze, just as water is a component."_ So that means the most toxic ingredient found in vaccines is water. Just ask pediatrician Dr. Richard Pan. He will tell you that.

    • Anonymous Ross
      Anonymous Ross 4 hours ago

      I hope it didn't have any antifreeze in it

    • A Ghost Without a Past
      A Ghost Without a Past 4 days ago +1

      Good, it shows that you actually care about yourself, unlike some idiots.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      Did it include Human Foreskin DNA from a _Packed Sausage?_

  • Ema Ema
    Ema Ema 5 days ago

    0:28 😂😂😂

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

    Check out this old tombstone. Peleg who died from smallpox inoculation.
    *_"In memory of Peleg, Son of Thomas and Mary Conklin who died of the Small pox by Inoculation Jan 27th 1788. Age 17 years"._*
    www.thelancet.com/cms/attachment/2001069982/2004073780/fx1.jpg

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      And when you call people "anti-vaxxers" it's just emotional blackmail on top of the coercion consisting of depriving children of a public education in the very school district where their parents pay taxes to the school district which should guarantee an education in that school system. That spells C-O-R-R-U-P-T-I-O-N.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      She is polite enough to not even mention the Human Foreskin DNA from Multiple PACKED SAUSAGES.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      Dr. Suzanne Humphries MD has the whole scoop on Jenner and Smallpox. She has researched vaccines beyond anything you can imagine. *_"Suzanne Humphries - Dissolving Illusions: The Information You Wish You Had Known Before"_*
      usclip.net/video/DkNmMHyWGNg/video.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +redlegagent - If Edward Jenner's inoculation had been worth a damn, Earl Grosvenor's son who was inoculated by Edward Jenner himself wouldn't have developed smallpox.

  • Ken Su
    Ken Su 5 days ago +1

    PAUL OFFIT TELLS THE TRUTH FOR ONCE
    usclip.net/video/c2cHZa8t98w/video.html

    • Ken Su
      Ken Su 2 days ago

      A Ghost Without a Past
      is yours a weak kid ?
      do his vaccines not work ?
      or is it a combination of both ?

    • A Ghost Without a Past
      A Ghost Without a Past 4 days ago

      I don't give a crap.
      Vaccinate your spawn, or I'll vaccinate them for you, and with a barbed needle.

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 5 days ago +1

      LOL! Nah, being dishonest is credible, right, Ima fake Skeptic? Because that is what these people are with this extremely selective quote mining. No surprise to see you defend it, considering your lied, and when I exposed the lie, you made up a new lie to try and deflect the discussion away from the first lie.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

      +Marco - playing the shill _"dishonesty card"_ again won't make you sound credible.

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 5 days ago +1

      Ah, the selective quotation as 'evidence' of something nefarious. This is only practiced by deliberate liars. Are you a deliberate liar, Ken Su? Or are you just so gullible that you believe the liars who made this video?

  • Ken Su
    Ken Su 5 days ago +1

    ha ha ha,
    doesn't understand the difference between ingestion and injection.
    and you are actually listening to this guy.
    ha ha ha ha ha
    fools. go get your shots.
    and the reason for peanut allergies is because they used peanut oil in the vaccines, your body mounts a response then when you eat peanuts your body thinks it is under attack and you nearly die.
    ask him why he didn't explain that.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      _"Peanut oil is a common trade secret ingredient in vaccine adjuvants. Some manufacturers rely more predominantly on other oils in the vaccines - sesame oil in the vaccines used in Israel and parts of Europe or fish oil which is used in the Scandinavian countries."_
      *_"Peanut Allergy & Peanut Oil in vaccines"_*
      whale.to/vaccine/peanut_allergy.html
      Don't go creating more _GENETIC_ Logical Fallacy arguments. They are illogical and irrelevant.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 5 days ago

      _"Yes, fake Skeptic, they once used it in clinical trials of a single flu vaccine. Many compounds never get passed that stage, neither did peanut oil. Regardless of the vaccine type (routine or not), the ingredients are all known."_
      Correct Marco. As the old axiom goes: _"many are called...........but few are chosen."_ Likewise many substances and medications never survive the process to see clinical trials because of the stringent regulatory process involved in drug approval. That process is so strict that recently a new law was passed in the US to allow people who are terminally ill to try new potential drugs in the hopes they might derive some benefit from them however fleeting. This was done because people literally die while waiting and hoping that some new drug will be developed and approved - a process that typically takes years.
      So we are left with what is sadly apparent in this comment section. We see people who lack an understanding of science and have no real desire to understand. For them = their minds are already made up thanks to their preexisting biases which shape their ideological worldview. Accordingly they commiserate on the internet via mediums such as this in their facile and ultimately self-defeating outlook as they expend all of their energies towards reinforcing those tightly held ideological beliefs - rather than seeking to genuinely understand the world around them. Because we are an empathetic species = we endeavor to save them none the less................if even from themselves. _C'est La Vie_

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 5 days ago +1

      Yes, fake Skeptic, they once used it in clinical trials of a single flu vaccine. Many compounds never get passed that stage, neither did peanut oil. Regardless of the vaccine type (routine or not), the ingredients are all known. Montanide, for example, is used in a commercial non-routine vaccine (against lung cancer) and *thus* listed as one of its ingredients (CimaVax-EGF).

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 5 days ago +1

      If it were used, it *would be mentioned as an ingredient in a vaccine*. Anyone who knows just a little bit about the requirements for listing the components present in a pharmaceutical formulation would know this. Literally *anyone*.
      You, on the other hand, just "assume they are still using it". You want evidence for a negative. In this case you can't get stronger evidence for a negative: it isn't listed and thus it isn't used. Period.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

      +Marco - It says here: *Adjuvants emulsions:* _This class includes oil-in-water (o/w) or water-in-oil (w/o) emulsions such as IFA (incomplete Freund's adjuvant), montanide, MF 59 and _*_Adjuvant 65 [peanut oil]._*_ IN GENERAL, these adjuvants are considered _*_toxic for routine human prophylactic vaccines._*_ Frequent side effects of emulsion include inflammatory reactions, granulomas and ulcers at the injection site._
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3928709/
      But it didn't say they were no longer used or when they stopped using it. And not all vaccines are considered _"routine"._

  • Ken Su
    Ken Su 5 days ago +1

    SHOW US YOUR FULL VACCINE HISTORY MEDICAL RECORD.
    MAKE A VIDEO SHOWING IT.
    YOU WON'T THOUGH,
    YOU DON'T GET VACCINATED.
    YOU ARE JUST MAKING VIDEOS TO GET THE FOOLS TO DAMAGE THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN.
    IF I'M WRONG .... PROVE IT.
    YOU SHOULD BE PROUD TO SHOW US YOUR VACCINE HISTORY.
    BUT YOU WON'T
    BECAUSE YOU DON'T.

  • Ken Su
    Ken Su 5 days ago

    A sad a pathetic SCIENCE
    NOT REAL SCIENCE.

  • My cat captain 123 Captain123.

    I have autism and I have got plenty of vaccines like every time I had to go the doctor when I was 4 years old I had a vaccine. So yes vaccines do cause autism.

    • Bleep Blop
      Bleep Blop 5 days ago

      That's not how vaccines work dipshit. You were autistic when you were born, nothing else caused it

    • Sqauree
      Sqauree 5 days ago

      When were you diagnosed with autism? It may be before the vaccine, or just randomly happen coincidentally after the vaccine.

  • Amy
    Amy 5 days ago

    Send this to Kat Von D

  • Forgot About It
    Forgot About It 5 days ago

    I haven't been vaxxed, i'm fine

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Ghost - Have you ever heard of Dr. Merrill W. Chase? _Dr. Merrill Chase made his landmark discovery in the early 1940's while working with Dr. Karl Landsteiner, a Nobel laureate recognized for his work identifying the human blood groups. At the time, experts believed that the body mounted its attacks against pathogens primarily through antibodies circulating in the blood stream, known as humoral immunity. But Dr. Chase, working in his laboratory, stumbled upon something that appeared to shatter that widespread tenet. Dr. Chase had uncovered the second arm of the immune system, or cell-mediated immunity. His finding became the groundwork for later research that pinpointed B cells, T cells and other types of white blood cells as the body's central safeguards against infection. ''This was a major discovery because everyone now thinks of the immune response in two parts, and in many instances it's the cellular components that are more important,'' said Dr. Michel Nussenzweig, a professor of immunology at Rockefeller. ''Before Chase, there was only humoral immunity. After him, there was _*_humoral_*_ and _*_cellular immunity.''_*
      *_"Merrill W. Chase, 98, Scientist Who Advanced Immunology"_* - (2004)
      www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/nyregion/merrill-w-chase-98-scientist-who-advanced-immunology.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Ghost - What is the difference between Humoral and Cell mediated immunity? Which one involves antibodies and which one doesn't? What does an Antibody Titer test measure? Doesn't it detect the presence and measure the amount of antibodies within a person’s blood? They claim the amount and diversity of antibodies created by vaccines correlates to the strength of the body’s immune response. But it can't prove immunity. If antibodies produced by vaccines don't confer or prove immunity, how can you have any "herd immunity?" The antibodies created by vaccines don't prove immunity. Vaccination isn't based on sound science. Antibodies to tetanus don't prove immunity. A person can receive a tetanus vaccine and have a high antibody count, yet still contract tetanus.
      _"This is the first report of grade III tetanus with _*_protective levels of antibody_*_ in the United States. The diagnosis of tetanus, nevertheless, should not be discarded solely on the basis of _*_seemingly protective anti-tetanus_*_ titers."_
      *_"Severe tetanus in immunized patients with high anti-tetanus titers."_* - (April 1992).
      Crone NE, Reder AT. Severe tetanus in immunized patients with high anti-tetanus titers. Neurology. 1992;42(4):761-4.
      n.neurology.org/content/42/4/761
      QUOTE: _"It is known that, in many instances, _*_antigen-specific antibody titers do not correlate with protection."_*
      Del giudice G, Podda A, Rappuoli R. What are the limits of adjuvanticity?. Vaccine. 2001;20 Suppl 1:S38-41.
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11587808

    • A Ghost Without a Past
      A Ghost Without a Past 4 days ago

      Because vaccines don't "create" antibodies, but memory cells, which are pretty much a database of diseases, so that your immune system will be ready when you contract said disease.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Ghost - How can you have any herd immunity from vaccines when antibodies created by vaccines don't even prove you are immune?

    • A Ghost Without a Past
      A Ghost Without a Past 4 days ago

      You're fine because of Herd Immunity.

  • Corey Playz
    Corey Playz 5 days ago +3

    Just stop Ima.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Corey - I don't know what you mean when you say "feeding self-esteem from other people".

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 4 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic No, I said Are YOU feeding self esstem from other people?🤔

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      +Corey - Are you claiming they add some kind "self esteem" to vaccines? I just don't follow you.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 4 days ago

      Right, Just leave the video now!

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 4 days ago

      Ima Skeptic LOOK AT NEWEST FIRST, DO YOU EAT SELF ESTEEM FOR BREAKFAST?

  • india atkin
    india atkin 5 days ago +1

    The issue they brush over is the states ability to withhold a childs right to enter into education, if they're not fully vaccinated.
    I dont believe punishing the child for being the subject of an information war is reasonable or effective.

    • india atkin
      india atkin 4 days ago +1

      @ redlegagent *honestly? I did NOT read any of that* ... but i did notice you're little signature sign-off.... again, very repetitive, almost like you're tagging you're handy work with a searchable key phrase.... and is that to mark independent thinkers for later monitoring... or is it just to help you compile a word count for the weekly invoice...
      see.... I told you they're paying you too much.... you're sloppy.
      but dont worry, you _did_ give me something new to think (and talk) about.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 5 days ago

      +India - your procon link doesn't alter what I stated = thus you fail to advance the discussion. Parents who reject science by rejecting vaccination tend to pass those biases along to their children much the same as religious fanatics systematically inculcate their children into the religion of their choice - as happened previously to the parents = and thus round and round the hamster wheel goes. So it is sad if parents make poor choices..................but that is what happens when people respond to fear and ignorance such as is pervasive in the realm of anti-vaccination.
      Moral of the story: I gave you the preamble to the US Constitution. I see where it mandated that the government ensure public health. What I failed to note is where it applied equal tasking to education.........which of course it did not. That is because education in the US dating all the way back to the time of the Founders = local matter. As such an education system was created via laws passed by Congress - and with laws come corresponding regulations.
      The government has an obligation to promote public health = thus it requires vaccination as a prerequisite to participation in the schools it creates. Sorry if you don't like that = but as the old saying goes: _"how's it feel to want???"_ So the government mandates you must pay taxes - also a Constitutionally empowered requirement - and it further states that school participation requires proactive measures to prevent infectious disease outbreaks = vaccination.
      Perhaps one day you'll come to recognize that *YOU* are not the end all to this discussion. When you elect representatives = they pass laws you must obey or face the consequences. If you don't like those laws = petition to remove them and vote. No matter the outcome however vaccination ordinances are Constitutional and have been upheld going back to the time of the Founders.
      On a side note I would point you to California's recent law. I made this point with Ima Skeptic previous - who was of course completely lost to it. Mandated vaccination laws are the pot of gold at the end of the anti-vaccination movement. Look to history and what do you see = municipalities passing mandatory vaccination laws in response to the epidemics that arose in the past. Likewise the more who today refuse to vaccinate for whatever reason -----------> the greater the chances of outbreaks ------------> which trigger mandatory vaccination laws as we see = thus the anti-vaxxers create the conditions for the very thing they lament about. Something new to think about.

    • india atkin
      india atkin 5 days ago +2

      @@ redlegagent, just answer my question:
      *How does withholding a child's education, for choices they didnt make, promote that child's welfare?*
      or how about a new question:
      *If the parents take your advice and withdraw from all public spaces, can they withdraw from paying taxes too?*
      How many "prices for admission" are there?

    • india atkin
      india atkin 5 days ago +1

      @ redlegagent, whatever they're paying you to work on a sunday.... it's too much....
      State-by-State: Vaccinations Required for Public School Kindergarten
      vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005979

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 5 days ago

      India - the parent either follows protocol and enrolls their child in the public school system...........or then do not. They have the option of homeschooling or else seeking attendance in some private facility that may not have the public school vaccination requirement. Even the vaccination laws from the States cited by Ima Skeptic do not apply to kids outside of the public school system.
      If people want to partake of publically funded and run services which require them to interact in the public space = then they must "pay the price of admission" if you will be reducing the chances of infectious disease propagation. Society expects no less from them. You do not live in a vacuum................you share the public space with others. Something new to think about.

  • Mertle
    Mertle 5 days ago +3

    legend tells that there are more Ima Skeptic comments on this video than there are stars in the universe

  • Maria Zhdanova
    Maria Zhdanova 5 days ago

    *Kat Von D left the chat*

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic True, True. But since your not liking vaccines, And you think that Vaccines are like The Nazis doing experiments in Jews, So you think IM supporting Nazis?

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

      +Corey Playz - In Nazi Germany the people in concentration camps were used in medical experiments without their consent. They didn't have any rights over their own bodily integrity. They didn't own their own body. Their body belonged to someone else. They were like cattle owned by a rancher. The parents had no rights over what was injected into their children. Children became guinea pigs to be experimented on.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic No, It’s 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      Ima Skeptic I’m not one of them, So your getting facts from someone who has experience with them.

    • Maria Zhdanova
      Maria Zhdanova 5 days ago

      0.0

  • Wild animations and gameplay

    I’m only allergic to some pollen and apple juice

  • Ryan King
    Ryan King 5 days ago

    So you're basically saying that my brother, who developed severe autism after receiving multiple vaccines as a kid, developed autism coincidentally? That makes sense.
    That's also the case for thousands upon thousands of kids every year. Autism diagnosis rates are up from 1 in every 150 children in 2000
    ( www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html) to 1 in every 36 children reported in 2017. What are we doing different now than we were doing before? Besides GMOs, drugs, and other things, vaccines. According to the CDC, at least 8 vaccines are to be administered from birth to 18 in 2000. Today, that number, according to the CDC, is 35, not including makeup/missed shots, recommended for high risk groups, etc. If one vaccine contains .125mgs of aluminum, then 8 vaccines is 1mg of aluminum. Not so bad. For 35 vaccines the number rises to 4.4 mgs. Add Mercury, formaldehyde, and other chemicals put into vaccines and it adds up very quickly. Also individuals may be allergic to those compounds so having any can prove harmful, even at smaller dosages. Also note that for every "shot" you receive, some have multiple dosages in them, thus making the levels of chemicals even higher.
    But don't listen to me, I'm just a crazy antivaxxer who imagined my perfectly developing brother go from being healthy to developing multiple food allergies, forgot how to talk, was in incredible pain for much of his childhood.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 3 days ago

      www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html
      Above is the vaccine schedule for the US Ryan - I assume you live in the US. Note that the vaccines for age 4 = ones previously received earlier. So unless your brother received some new vaccine never before administered to him = what he should have received were ones he had gotten when he was younger. Accordingly if they did not adversely impact him then as you stated he was "normal" - it does not follow that repeat vaccinations should suddenly adverse impact him unless something else is involved = allergic reaction or some underlying medical problem. While allergic reactions can happen - they are rare for the most part and they are not the fault of the vaccine per se as most people tolerate them just fine. There just happens to be a few who are allergic to things for whatever reason.
      So we consider the other part = preexisting condition. Here is what I mean. There is a girl the anti-vaxxers love to point to as "proof" that vaccines cause autism = Hannah Poling. Hannah had a severe reaction after receiving a vaccination and was eventually diagnosed with neurological issues. In the minds of anti-vaxxers - that alone serves as proof. Yet it was eventually established that Hannah suffered from a mitochondrial disorder. That condition "predisposed" her to adverse reactions to anything that might "stress her system". Accordingly she received vaccinations - which stressed her immune system = and it was just enough to push her body over the edge as it were to react badly. Now what anti-vaxxers overlook is because of that mitochondrial disorder = Hannah could have reacted the same at any point down the line from getting sick "the natural way" as anti-vaxxers like to put it. In this case however vaccination was her trigger.
      Moral of the story: so in Hannah's case the vaccines stressed her system enough = yet as noted any potential illness or injury could have accomplished the same thing given her preexisting mitochondrial disorder. So with your brother we must - like with Hannah - always look at the totality of what might be going on to understand the process. Vaccines previously received and tolerated months to years earlier should not trigger adverse results if they are repeated. There must be some other variable involved here.

    • Ryan King
      Ryan King 3 days ago

      +redlegagent thanks for the information. I will look into it. However where you say that autism develops before birth, that's Fragile X syndrome yes, but the environmental stimulated autism occurs after birth. My brother was 3-4 when he received a series of vaccines and shots, and he regressed after those shots. That doesn't add up to what you said, that autism is screened for earlier in childhood. He was almost 4 and had no signs of autism, he had been screened and he was a perfectly fine child, then he received these shots and literally within minutes of receiving these shots everything about him changed, and within 48 hours he wasn't the same people we knew prior. I'm simply stating my brother's story and what happened to him, I'm not trying to argue vaccines caused his autism here, I'm just stating after he received them he changed. I can't remember quite what else happened then because this was 14-15 years ago, but I remember that much. Plus we've had doctors and physicians, therapists, and others within the medical industry (some of which my mother either worked with or knew from within the hospital she works at to this day) tell us that something within vaccines can trigger autism, but they weren't sure what.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 4 days ago

      Ryan - we do not yet fully understand autism as far as all it's causes. Despite what I just wrote = we still understand a fair amount and as time goes by we understand more and more. What we do understand is that there have been dozens of studies - dozens of them worldwide over the years. All of those studies showed exactly the same result = no correlation between vaccination and autism.
      Go to my thread about how the avatar Ken Su misrepresented what Dr. Paul Offit stated at a medical conference. I posted the entire video - not just the carefully edited part the anti-vaxxers push on the internet. Cue to about 16 minutes in amd listen to the discussion between the doctors about autism and vaccination. They relate that studies have looked at:
      1 - MMR vaccine.
      2 - Thimerosal.
      3 - number of vaccinations given.
      4 - parents who withheld all vaccinations.
      5 - parents who delayed vaccinations.
      6 - parents who only administered some vaccines and withheld others.
      7 - timing of vaccinations given.
      8 - siblings of autistic children.
      and on and on it goes and it is always the same result = no correlation between vaccination and autism while parents who withheld all vaccines or else delayed or only allowed their children to have certain ones still suffered autism at rates comparable to those who were vaccinated per the usual schedule.
      Moral of the story: research is more and more pointing to intrauterine development as the main trigger of autism = before the child is born. Something happens during the fetal development which results in autism down the line. Studies have shown that mothers as an example who are morbidly obese and/or diabetic during their pregnancy = higher chance of having autistic children.
      I'll leave you with this final point to ponder. The brain of a newborn infant = "instinct machine". The child can not interact with it's environment in a meaningful way until it's brain has developed for a time. That coincidentally is why children are not normally screened for autism until at least 9 months and more typically 12 months or later. That is to give the child's brain time to develop so that the doctor can assess it's neurological status in a meaningful way.
      As it happens = vaccinations tend to occur along the same timeframe. As such parents who see their child diagnosed with autism then latch onto the easiest thing to blame = vaccinations which happened around the same time. It is just coincidence however. A child born autistic - save for in the more extreme cases of neurological damage = will not manifest symptoms of autism until some months have passed because their brains are simply not yet developed enough to do so and the child is merely reacting per instinct to external stimuli. Something new to think about.

    • Ryan King
      Ryan King 4 days ago

      +redlegagent Okay, you seem to know what you're talking about. I'm honestly curious, what is the cause of autism today? What causes people to go from developing perfectly normal as a toddler to degrading nearly back to an infant in terms of talking, walking, pointing, etc in less than a month? Autism doesn't run in my family, and what my brother has is not Fragile X syndrome. Let me break my statement down, i shouldn't say that vaccines caused my brother's autism, because they're full of different chemicals and materials, but SOMETHING in vaccines triggered his regression to having autism. I do believe vaccines are good and safe, it is how our body protects us from becoming majorly sick, but something currently in them that wasn't in them prior I would say to the 90's is triggering autism. That's my assumption, anyway. That, or it's genetic engineering or the extensive use of chemicals, artificial substances in our foods perhaps?

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 5 days ago

      _"I'm not going to hunt down all the sources of which you speak because it has no meaning and only a miniscule amount of people will see it. Plus, even if I did the sort, you would just refute it anyway because it doesn't support your views"_
      Above is your underlying problem Ryan. Either what you choose to believe is supported by sound science............or it is not. If the latter = then having your "evidence" debunked goes with the territory I'm afraid. Perhaps one day you'll come to realize that person incredulity is not a variable in establishing validity. It does not matter if you don't believe the science...............reality remains real no matter if you accept it or not. There are no "alternative facts" as the Trumpanzee idiots spout about on television and the internet. There are only facts - and then there is BS which represents a twisting of those facts. I'll leave you with a quote that is apropos here:
      _"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."_ - Neil DeGrasse Tyson

  • Stevenpenguin
    Stevenpenguin 5 days ago

    Let's Me Describe Ima In One Sentence. r/insanepeoplefacebook

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic The video is making the argument, Not you. So YOUR doing THAT.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

      You are losing all the tread off of your tires and getting nowhere.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

      Do you know what I think of people who resort to ad hominem attacks in vaccine debates?? I think they are just spinning their wheels.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

      _Argumentum ad hominem_ logical fallacy. (also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
      Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.

  • How InTheWorld
    How InTheWorld 6 days ago

    I like how none of the comments have even brought up the irrelevancy of the first counterargument. They say that because we intake 30-50mg of aluminum per day through food and drink and because vaccines only contain 0.125mg per dose, that therefore the amount given through vaccines is safe. This doesn't make sense as an argument, as the mercury we intake through food is not injected directly into the bloodstream. There is a system that food goes through, and I don't know about all that goes on, but the body does not just let all the chemicals found in food and water enter our bloodstream. Pretty ignorant way to argue.

    • How InTheWorld
      How InTheWorld 5 days ago

      +redlegagent You aren't stating he absorption rate, nor do you know how the body handles that small amount of aluminum entering the bloodstream each time compared to a likely larger amount coming in at once through a vaccine. Also you don't know how the body would react to the overall solution (since there is aluminum, other chemicals, and the weakened/dead form of the disease) compared to how it reacts to some aluminum being allowed in through the digestive system. I don't think any real scientist would disagree with the idea that these are two very different forms of aluminum exposure, and that you can't just compare the amounts to justify the use of a vaccine. I'm not saying I have all the answers but ASAP Science did a really poor job with their first counterargument, as they basically said, "something is toxic based on the dose, and there is more aluminum in the food you eat every day than in a vaccine, so the vaccines are not even as bad as food concerning aluminum exposure," which doesn't really provide a sciene-based refutation. That's why I call it ignorant, and also why I am mad that people are eating this up like it's top of the line science. There is confirmation bias going on both ways, the only thing is that anti-vaxxers are the ones not believing an industry that has produced some of the worst health outcomes out of all developed countries. I'm not saying that anti-vaxxers are definitely right, I'm just saying there are concerning statistics and a corrupt system which has produced vaccines, all of which could easily lead people to think that these vaccines may not be made for the common person's interest. As America gets sicker and sicker with chronic illness (heart disease, cancer, diabetes, obesity, etc.), we are made to believe that vaccines are the cream of the crop when it comes to health. Why are there not more public health initiatives for ensuring that people are getting enough sleep each night, having access to fresh produce instead of McDonald's, learning what foods are making us sick and fat, and making the education and work system less stressful, which would produce a healthier, more functional population that would get work done more effectively? Oh yeah, because these types of changes don't make a lot of $$$$, while the vaccine industry in America is in the tens of billions of dollars. The same reason that war never seems to end is the reason we have such an advanced society with tons of medications and procedures yet still have a sick population: money. These systems are largely driven by profit, and most of the world does not seem to know that. And ASAP Science has Bill and Melinda Gates' annual letter in the top of their description, which brings up the question of whether they have a bias due to being connected to Bill's foundation, which is heavily invested in employing vaccine usage all over the world. They don't even bring up any concerns in this video. Based on the first argument, it would seem that because there is only 0.125 mg per vaccine dose, and because ppl eat 30-50 mg through food, that someone could get 160 vaccine doses in a day (which would give 20 mg of aluminum) and they would be fine in terms of aluminum exposure. Now obviously nobody in their right mind would agree with that assessment, as the aluminum from the vaccines directly enter the bloodstream, but according to ASAP Science's explanation you couldn't make the distinction at all, as they didn't explain how the way the body reacts to the vaccine would be safe. You can't sit there and say that ASAP Science really did a good job of explaining away the first argument.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 5 days ago

      Redlegagent has already explained why your facile claims are bunko Ima Skeptic. Try actually "thinking" once in a while instead of simply spouting off the same trite claims ad nauseam. I understand you are seeking attention and thus = post incessantly online to "fill the void" = but what you claim is bogus and as such is representative of junk science.
      It does not matter the absorption ratio of injected versus oral intake of aluminum. You receive vaccines only at certain points in your life = that's it. Meanwhile as Corey noted = you ingest aluminum regularly with your dietary intake.................thus the cumulative effect of that ingestion - even at lower absorption rates = *VASTLY* exceeds any exposure you receive via vaccination in your lifetime.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic WE TAKE IN 30-50 MG FROM FOOD *EVERY DAY !* PROVE THAT *SKEPTIC*

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago +1

      _"redlegagent"_ doesn't know about all the mercury and aluminum in the brain or even how it got there.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 5 days ago

      Perhaps in the future you should refrain from employing the term "ignorant" in reference to others as you likewise fail to understand what you are attempting to say.
      1 - do you inject vaccines every day???
      2 - do you eat food every day???
      So which one denotes the greater intake over time???........................you do the math. Something new to think about.

  • OJcolt
    OJcolt 6 days ago

    i guess im 1/1,000,000 then

  • Alicia Rodrí­guez
    Alicia Rodrí­guez 6 days ago +1

    Ima Skeptic is my favorite anime character

  • Andrei Saftoiu
    Andrei Saftoiu 6 days ago

    If I'ma skeptic shows up again I'ma go on VACation


    If you play tf2 you will get it

  • Random Boy 3 m
    Random Boy 3 m 6 days ago +1

    My concerns aren't with autism. I'm more concerned about auto immune disorder.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      +Corey - we know what you meant.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 3 days ago

      Ima Skeptic I meant vaccines,,,

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago +1

      I just heard 54% of American children now have an auto immune disorder. It's not good.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      THEY DONT CAUSE ANYTHING BUT PRETECTION.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      You mean like when your body turns against you and starts attacking you? Yeah. That isn't normal behavior for the human body. That is the kind of stuff that can cause mankind to become extinct.

  • Bob Coffee Filter
    Bob Coffee Filter 6 days ago

    Oh my god, I recognize you
    From that music video I saw a some time ago

  • Corey Playz
    Corey Playz 6 days ago +1

    Did Ima Skeptic grow up in Bulgraia

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      @Mertle And because MG was present in vaccines, They think WE AND THE PEPOLE MAKING VACCINES ARE NAZIS.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic They were already experimented on with a vaccine before it was put on the market? Also, Calling ME or A SURRPORTER of vaccines Nazis? Very brave. Very brave. IM NOT JOKING, IM LEARNING GERMAN, AND I LIKE MODERN GERMANY. SO CALL ME WHAT YOU LIKE, YOIR NOT [HALT]ING ME FROM SUPPORTING MODERN GERMANY (not nazi Germany) AND PLANTING GERMAN FLAGS HERE! 🇩🇪 🇩🇪 🇩🇪

    • Mertle
      Mertle 5 days ago

      Ima Skeptic why would they though? Especially if you’re in a first world country like France, u.k or Australia. Here in Australia we take care of our health system and the environment very carefully, it’s why we have such strict border laws. And if you’re talking about the government poisoning vaccines it would be really odd as the government fails without people to work for them, and the government is watched by a lot of independent bodies here in Australia, there’s no risk of vaccines, and the first sign of any vaccines causing damage they would pull them off the shelves immediately.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

      +Mertle - when you lose your rights to bodily integrity, then they can start injecting you with anything whether you like it, or not. They can do it to your children too, whether you like it, or not. You won't even have ownership of yours, or your children's, body. It will belong to someone else. Your children will belong to someone else. Just like the medical experiments that were done to people in Nazi Germany. Is that what you want for the whole world?

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic What? What THING do you mean “Body Integrity”? No autism? That’s a brave thing to say to a AUTISTIC PERSPN!

  • Wooper Woopy
    Wooper Woopy 6 days ago

    Okay, but what about the Flu Shot?

    • Wooper Woopy
      Wooper Woopy 5 days ago

      +Mertle yeah

    • Mertle
      Mertle 5 days ago

      no one knows what he's saying man

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 6 days ago

      Uh

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      _"Technically, any clinical diagnosis of influenza is a diagnosis of influenza-like-illness (ILI), not of influenza."_
      _"In most years, in the majority of samples tested, the influenza virus is not present. In the United States during the 2008-9 influenza season through 18 April, out of 183,839 samples tested and reported to the CDC, only 25,925 (14.1%) were positive for influenza. The percent positive reached a maximum of about 25%."_
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza-like_illness

  • Elena Ruh
    Elena Ruh 6 days ago

    Could you put your sources? I need to convince people haha and they don't belive me if I don't tell which scientists said this

  • redlegagent
    redlegagent 6 days ago

    Definition of the Day: Pettifogger = a person who engages in pettifoggery.
    _"Definition of pettifogger. 1 : a lawyer whose methods are petty, underhanded, or disreputable : shyster. 2 : one given to quibbling over trifles."_
    Moral of the story: I have no doubt Ima Skeptic is not a lawyer as their posting pattern here is anything but indicative of higher education. What is apparent however is that Ima Skeptic is a blatant pettifogger as noted above. They flood the comment section here with innumerable posts.................then quibbles ad nauseam over those posts without actually saying anything of value to the reader + adds ever more extraneous layers to the discussion. Something new to think about.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 6 days ago

      Ima Skeptic WHAT DID I SAY.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      +Corey Playz - trolls also act like you.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 6 days ago

      stop calling pepole trolls Ima, it won’t work.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      I'm thinking you might be a troll. *"Troll"* - _"a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content."_
      _"to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts"_
      www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
      _Argumentum ad hominem_ (also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
      Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.
      When you resort to using one logical fallacy after another, it deceptive. It has become a pattern with you. It's a pattern of deception. Deliberate deception.

  • redlegagent
    redlegagent 6 days ago

    Tip of the Day: "Incomplete"
    Since anti-vaxxers were apparently unwilling/unable to answer my Challenge of the Day posts = we'll have to grade them as incompletes. That is no surprise of course folks. So let's move on and talk about "peer-review" and consensus science.
    1 - acceptable scientific methodology requires hypotheses put forth to be vetted via a process known as peer-review.
    2 - as such research papers and claims are posted in scientific/medical journals for review by others in the field.
    3 - there are many such journals online today = but not all carry the same weight.
    4 - many are considered "open source" = which means they accept articles and papers that sometimes the authors (or the group they work for) pay for their paper to be published in the venue.
    5 - as a result of 1-4 = we sometimes see pushback when factual errors/bias/poor methodology is employed in what is claimed. That sometimes results in the paper/article being retracted.
    So let's sum up shall we. Each year worldwide = literally hundreds of thousands of papers are published. As such not all of them can be considered acceptable peer-reviewed science = in fact many fail to rise to that level. So just because something was published in an online journal + makes it's way onto anti-vaccine websites who then push it out under the guise of "peer-reviewed science" = *DOES NOT* make it so. There are what we term as "outlier opinions" - even in science. Many such opinions never bear out what they claim.............which of course is why they are disregarded and not considered acceptable peer-review consensus science. Something new to think about.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      _Expert Review of Clinical Pharmacology_ journal is a monthly peer-reviewed medical journal covering all aspects of clinical pharmacology. What do you object to??

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      I get most of my information from PubMed just like this video did and most, if not all, of it is peer reviewed from peer reviewed journals. You even bashed the peer reviewed paper on statin drugs and claimed at least one of the authors was a chiropractor as a _genetic_ logical fallacy argument which was patently false. A lie.

  • A B
    A B 6 days ago

    Just ask Antivaxxers: Got Polio?

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 6 days ago

      I did

    • A B
      A B 6 days ago

      Nice. You guys just started arguing just how i expected.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      +redlegagent - QUOTE: _"In humans, SV40 DNA has been detected in B cell lymphomas [39,108-115], expression of the SV40 T-ag protein has been confirmed in some viral DNA-positive lymphoid tumors [110,111,114], and some non-Hodgkins lymphoma patients have been found to have antibodies against SV40 T-ag [116]. This model predicts that SV40-positive cancers _*_would generally appear..."_* (2018)
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5809058/
      I'm thinking you might be a troll. *"Troll"* - _"a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content."_
      _"to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts"_
      www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
      _Argumentum ad hominem_ (also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
      Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 6 days ago

      As Willy Wonka says Ima: _"strike that - reverse it."_ Anti-vaxxer trolls such as yourself are the ongoing laughing stock here. Consider your post above about SV40 = textbook example of anti-vaxxer misrepresentation to foster fear and innuendo.
      SV40 such as the anti-vaccine industry peddles ad nauseam is of course a virus which primarily infects animals such as monkeys. The supposed "contamination" = early 1950's. Now what Ima Skeptic repeatedly fails to tell folks = SV40 *WAS NOT KNOWN TO EXIST AT THE TIME AS IT HAD NOT BEEN DISCOVERED!!!* As such one can not "screen out" a virus which the world does not know exists.....................duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Moral of the story: SV40 "can" cause tumors in animals - note I said "can" as it more often simply creates an underlying (latent) infection which causes no problems. In humans however there is no credible evidence to demonstrate it causes the same. As such SV40 after it was identified in 1960 = screened for beginning in 1963. So we have yet more utterly mundane ancient history thanks to Ima Skeptic folks.......................Morrison time. {chuckle}
      usclip.net/video/qKxlvWOqmFs/video.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      I really don't believe the SV40 cancer virus contamination was an accident. Pediatric brain tumors are now the leading cause of cancer-related death among children and adolescents ages 0-19. There is money to be made in cancer drugs. *_"Simian virus 40 transformation, malignant mesothelioma and brain tumors"_* - (Oct 2011).
      Qi F, Carbone M, Yang H, Gaudino G. Simian virus 40 transformation, malignant mesothelioma and brain tumors. Expert Rev Respir Med. 2011;5(5):683-97.
      _"The presence of SV40 sequences in several human cancers, including Malignant mesothelioma (MM), bone and _*_brain tumors,_*_ and lymphomas has raised concerns about the possible pathogenic role of SV40 in humans. Over 50 laboratories, using different techniques, have detected SV40 in human tumors (mostly in MM and brain tumors). The techniques used to detect SV40 included PCR, quantitative PCR, Southern blotting, IHC staining for Tag, DNA sequencing, in situ hybridization et cetera. _*_It is unlikely that so many researchers using different technical approaches would consistently be wrong."_*
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3241931/

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

    It's not just vaccines. It's statin drugs too. *_"Statins stimulate atherosclerosis and heart failure: pharmacological mechanisms."_* - (2015).
    Okuyama H, Langsjoen PH, Hamazaki T, et al. Statins stimulate atherosclerosis and heart failure: pharmacological mechanisms. Expert Rev Clin Pharmacol. 2015;8(2):189-99.
    _Expert Review of Clinical Pharmacology_ - (peer reviewed).
    Abstract
    _"In contrast to the current belief that cholesterol reduction with statins decreases atherosclerosis, we present a perspective that statins may be causative in coronary artery calcification and can function as mitochondrial toxins that impair muscle function in the heart and blood vessels through the depletion of coenzyme Q10 and 'heme A', and thereby ATP generation. Statins inhibit the synthesis of vitamin K2, the cofactor for matrix Gla-protein activation, which in turn protects arteries from calcification. Statins inhibit the biosynthesis of selenium containing proteins, one of which is glutathione peroxidase serving to suppress peroxidative stress. An impairment of selenoprotein biosynthesis may be a factor in congestive heart failure, reminiscent of the dilated cardiomyopathies seen with selenium deficiency. Thus, the epidemic of heart failure and atherosclerosis that plagues the modern world may paradoxically be aggravated by the pervasive use of statin drugs. We propose that current statin treatment guidelines be critically reevaluated."_
    PMID: 25655639

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 5 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic Ok, Where ya finding this? USclip?
      PEPOLE TRYING TO KILL PEPOLE?

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago +1

      If you are an alcoholic, don't forget to take Vitamin C. Lot's of it. But even with that you may still need IV Vitamin C since the Vitamin C taken orally may not get absorbed through your stomach.
      *_"Scurvy in an alcoholic patient treated with intravenous vitamins"_* - (April 2014)
      Ong J, Randhawa R. Scurvy in an alcoholic patient treated with intravenous vitamins. BMJ Case Rep. 2014;2014
      _"Vitamin C deficiency is rare in developed countries but there is an increased prevalence in chronic alcohol abusers. The normal body store of vitamin C is estimated to be 1500 mg in an average healthy man and the clinical features of scurvy usually occurs after 3 months of vitamin C deficiency when levels fall below 0.1 mg/dL.3 Therefore, many physicians would assume the commonly used regimen described above would be more than adequate to correct vitamin C deficiency."_
      _"This case report however highlights the inadequacy of this regimen and demonstrates chronic alcohol abusers who are at risk of longstanding vitamin C deficiency may need a prolonged course of vitamin C supplementation either intravenously or orally, especially in those who are acutely ill or critically unwell. This is possibly because vitamin C is a negative acute phase reactant and there is increased use of vitamin C in the cellular processes involved in inflammation and tissue repair, particularly in acute critical illness and infectious states. Further GI and renal losses of vitamin C (eg, from intestinal failure or emergency renal replacement therapy) in the critically ill chronic alcoholic patient may also occur and contribute to a vitamin C-deficient state."_
      _"In specialist liver centres such as King's College Hospital, intravenous vitamin C supplementation is often given to the acutely unwell or critically ill liver patient for 1 week before switching to oral supplementation. We should therefore consider either a prolonged course of intravenous vitamin replacement or the addition of oral/nasogastric vitamin C supplementation (100 mg once to three times a day) in patients with chronic alcoholism and alcoholic liver disease."_
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3987238/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago +1

      If you take 20 medications per day, consume alcohol and smoke tobacco, it is just about guaranteed you will have scurvy, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, and heart disease.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago +1

      Talk about a STOOOPID medical industry. SCURVY can KILL you. QUOTE: _"The prevalence and risk factors for hypovitaminosis C among hospitalized patients in a department of internal medicine are largely _*_unknown."_*
      But they do know alcoholism and smoking are risk factors for scurvy.
      _"The main risk factors are living conditions and _*_excessive alcohol_*_ and _*_tobacco consumption."_*
      *_"Hypovitaminosis C in hospitalized patients."_* - (2003).
      Fain O, Pariés J, Jacquart B, et al. Hypovitaminosis C in hospitalized patients. Eur J Intern Med. 2003;14(7):419-425.
      _European Journal of Internal Medicine_ (peer reviewed)
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14614974

  • Carl Webber
    Carl Webber 6 days ago +1

    What the sh#@! is so bad about autisim I have it and it aint bad it's not like it's if u have it u r werid , it just means your brain developed in a way it makes u anti social

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago

      +Corey Playz - you are using the _False Dilemma_ logical fallacy as an argument. That means you are a troll.
      www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/94/False-Dilemma

    • Carl Webber
      Carl Webber 5 days ago

      +Ima Skeptic remember i have it so i know a sh#@! ton about it

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 6 days ago

      @Ima Skeptic You’d have pepole disabled then dead? Go die.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      This video missed the part of how autistic brains are full of aluminum. How are parents supposed to get all the aluminum put into their children's brain with vaccines out of their brain?? They won't. *_"Aluminium in brain tissue in autism"_* - (March 2018).
      Mold M, Umar D, King A, Exley C. Aluminium in brain tissue in autism. J Trace Elem Med Biol. 2018;46:76-82.
      _Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology_ (peer-reviewed).
      _"Paediatric vaccines that include an aluminium adjuvant are an indirect measure of infant exposure to aluminium and their burgeoning use has been _*_directly correlated with increasing prevalence of autism spectrum disorder (ASD)_*_ [11]. Animal models of autism spectrum disorder (ASD) continue to support a connection with aluminium and to aluminium adjuvants used in human vaccinations in particular [12]. _*_We recorded some of the highest values for brain aluminium content ever measured in healthy or diseased tissues in these male autism spectrum disorder (ASD) donors..."_*
      www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29413113

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      In severe cases of autism it is not uncommon for an initial application for Social Security Disability benefits to be approved.
      www.disabilitybenefitscenter.org/social-security-disabling-conditions/autism

  • Elise Narbaez
    Elise Narbaez 6 days ago +1

    My father is a antivaxxer and against medication too. He believes they “control” you or give you autism though I explain to him he’s clearly wrong he just believes that I’m brainwashed.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      +redlegagent - but the fact is, no true placebos were used. That is what is relevant. The logical fallacies like the "genetic" logical fallacy you attempt to use here is irrelevant. It's illogical.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 6 days ago

      Absolutely people................get your medical advice from a lawyer who works with anti-vaccine groups!!! While your at it..............why not ask your plumber about advice on neurosurgery. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      Start listening to Dr. Mary Holland at the 15:00 minute mark. No true placebos used for HPV vaccine.
      *"On Trial: The CIA & HPV Vaccine"*
      usclip.net/video/ETgiMtZk92c/video.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      +redlegagent -The gold standard of science requires the use of true placebos that you will rarely find in vaccine studies.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 6 days ago

      +Elise - conspiracy theories are the swansong of the failed intellect I'm afraid. People who often lack the ability or even the motivation to learn about something = will sometimes latch onto facile conspiracies about the topic. It is just a short-cut approach to science = nothing more.
      Moral of the story: in the world we have what we call "pseudo-science". That means supposed scientific claims which lack consensus and which are always a result of someone not following accepted scientific methodology to arrive at their conclusions. Scientific methodology is the gold standard by the way to ferret out individual bias and bad science. Anyways these people employ conspiracy theories like a painter uses spackling to patch holes in walls...............except they use them to plug the logic/evidence gaps in their claims. Something new to think about.

  • diet mentos
    diet mentos 6 days ago +1

    They forgot to mention the aborted fetuses in some vaccines

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      +redlegagent - it's all quoted science. You obviously failed science class. "diet mentos" was referring to aborted fetal cell DNA contamination of vaccines.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 6 days ago

      Slept through science class in school I see diet. Better luck next time.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      And the DNA from human foreskin. *_"Preclinical safety evaluation of DNA vaccines encoding modified HPV16 E6 and E7."_* - (2012)
      Henken FE, Oosterhuis K, Öhlschläger P, et al. Preclinical safety evaluation of DNA vaccines encoding modified HPV16 E6 and E7. Vaccine. 2012;30(28):4259-66.
      _Vaccine Journal_
      Abstract
      _"Here, we describe the preclinical safety evaluation of these candidate vaccines by analysis of their transforming capacity in vitro using established murine fibroblasts (NIH 3T3 cells) and primary _*_human foreskin_*_ keratinocytes (HFKs)."_
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22554465
      *_"Varicella-Zoster Virus Infection of Human Foreskin Fibroblast Cells Results in Atypical Cyclin Expression and Cyclin-Dependent Kinase Activity"_* - (June 2006)
      Leisenfelder SA, Moffat JF. Varicella-zoster virus infection of human foreskin fibroblast cells results in atypical cyclin expression and cyclin-dependent kinase activity. J Virol. 2006;80(11):5577-87.
      _Journal of Virology_ - (peer reviewed)
      *_"Human foreskin_*_ fibroblasts (HFFs) (CCD-1137Sk; American Type Culture Collection, Manassas, VA), used prior to passage 18, and MeWo cells (human melanoma cell line) were grown in Eagle minimum essential medium with Earle's salts and l-glutamine, supplemented with 10% fetal bovine serum (FBS; Gemini, Woodland, CA) and nonessential amino acids."_
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1472175/
      *_"Immunosuppression and Isolation of Rubella Virus from Human Lymphocytes After Vaccination with Two Rubella Vaccines"_* - (July 1979).
      Buimovici-klein E, Cooper LZ. Immunosuppression and isolation of rubella virus from human lymphocytes after vaccination with two rubella vaccines. Infect Immun. 1979;25(1):352-6.
      _Infection and Immunity_
      _"The vaccine viruses had been passaged twice in tissue culture: RA27/3 in _*_human foreskin_*_ fibroblast cells and HPV77 in Vero cells."_
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC414459/?page=2
      Someone else's DNA can get inserted into your DNA. And that alone could cause cancer. *_"Epidemiologic and Molecular Relationship Between Vaccine Manufacture and Autism Spectrum Disorder Prevalence."_* - (2015).
      Deisher TA, Doan NV, Koyama K, Bwabye S. Epidemiologic and Molecular Relationship Between Vaccine Manufacture and Autism Spectrum Disorder Prevalence. Issues Law Med. 2015;30(1):47-70.
      _"Vaccines manufactured in _*_human fetal cell lines_*_ [aborted fetuses] contain unacceptably high levels of fetal DNA fragment contaminants. The human genome naturally contains regions that are susceptible to double strand break formation and _*_DNA insertional mutagenesis."_*
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26103708

  • TheRealEmeraldSword /TES

    Question, *CAN THEY CAUSE CANCER?*

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 3 days ago

      _"Consumers already concerned about vaccine dangers are likely to find little reassurance in recent reports that Food and Drug Administration (FDA) officials are giving vaccine manufacturers the green light to use human cancer cells to produce future vaccines."_
      _"But, the big question to ask is ‘why?’ The FDA, with this approval, shows no regard for basic safety issues."_
      *_"FDA approved: Human cancer cells added to vaccines"_*
      www.naturalhealth365.com/vaccine-dangers-cancer-cells-1238.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 4 days ago

      QUOTE: _"Small amounts of residual cell substrate DNA unavoidably occur in all viral vaccines as well as other biologics produced using cell substrates. There are several potential ways DNA could be a risk factor. _*_DNA can be oncogenic or infectious; in addition, it can cause insertion mutagenesis through integration into the host genome._*_ A major concern about residual cell-substrate DNA has been the potential for the _*_induction of cancer,_*_ particularly if the DNA was from a tumorigenic cell or from a cell line established from a human cancer."_
      *_Cell Lines Derived from Human Tumors for Vaccine Manufacture_* Talk about corrupt!!
      whale.to/v/FDA%20Briefing%20Document%20Sept%2019,2012.pdf

    • TheRealEmeraldSword /TES
      TheRealEmeraldSword /TES 5 days ago +1

      The war has begun.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 5 days ago +1

      +redlegagent - I can't believe you would so far as to make light of cancer in order to market your vaccines!!

  • Wilde Cat
    Wilde Cat 7 days ago

    Just...
    Let them experience what happens when they are anti-vaxxers.
    "A lifetime of pain."

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      _False dilemma_ fallacy.
      www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/94/False-Dilemma

  • The silver Wolf
    The silver Wolf 7 days ago

    You can't Be autistic because of vaccines

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      They aren't still activating a pregnant mother's immune system with vaccines while she is pregnant, are they?? That would be STOOOPID. *_"Schizophrenia and Autism-Related Disorders"_* - (March 2015)."
      Hommer RE, Swedo SE. Schizophrenia and autism-related disorders. Schizophr Bull. 2015;41(2):313-4.
      _"In addition, environmental factors, such as advanced paternal age and _*_maternal infection/immune activation_*_ during pregnancy, have been reported to _*_increase risk of both autism spectrum disorder (ASD)_*_ and schizophrenia (SCZ)."23,24_
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4332956/
      Retired neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock warned people about that and all the pro-vaxxers called him a "quack".

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 7 days ago +1

    Debunk this... *_"DR. JUDY MIKOVITZ EXPOSES AIDS THROUGH VACCINES!"_*
    usclip.net/video/7WNbGyr5jeU/video.html

  • Donald Mosher
    Donald Mosher 7 days ago

    usclip.net/video/LEWPBhDDu1I/video.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 7 days ago

      www.metabunk.org/attachments/funvax070601-pdf.5739/

  • Ima Skeptic
    Ima Skeptic 7 days ago

    Washington DC has the lowest vaccination rates in the USA. It is the capital of the United States.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 6 days ago

      Ima Skeptic that teen is you

    • Alex Irregular
      Alex Irregular 6 days ago

      Ima Skeptic
      🎵 killlll yoursellffff 🎶

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      +Corey Playz - I'm thinking you might be a troll. *"Troll"* - _"a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content."_
      _"to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts"_
      www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
      _Argumentum ad hominem_ (also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
      Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 7 days ago

      Ima Skeptic In your food there is Aluminum so in your brain there is Aluminum

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 7 days ago

      Ima Skeptic It’s because your STUPID.

  • Paul Saulnier
    Paul Saulnier 7 days ago

    "Pentagon Vaccine To Kill Religious Center of Brain"
    usclip.net/video/x8Lsvt1z0n4/video.html

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      This paper doesn't mention God or spirituality or fundamentalism. Now I'm doubtful.
      *_"Localization and Expression of VMAT2 Aross Mammalian Species: A Translational Guide for Its Visualization and Targeting in Health and Disease"_*
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3928124/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      A published scientific article discussing genetic engineering of spirituality.
      *_"Genospirituality: genetic engineering for spiritual and religious enhancement."_* - (2008).
      Charlton BG. Genospirituality: genetic engineering for spiritual and religious enhancement. Med Hypotheses. 2008;71(6):825-8.
      Abstract
      _"The most frequently discussed role for genetic engineering is in relation to medicine, and a second area which provokes discussion is the use of genetic engineering as an enhancement technology. But one neglected area is the potential use of genetic engineering to increase human spiritual and religious experience - or genospirituality. If technologies are devised which can conveniently and safely engineer genes causal of spiritual and religious behaviours, then people may become able to choose their degree of religiosity or spiritual sensitivity. For instance, it may become possible to increase the likelihood of direct religious experience - i.e. 'revelation': the subjective experience of communication from the deity. Or, people may be able to engineer 'animistic' thinking, a mode of cognition in which the significant features of the world - such as large animals, trees, distinctive landscape features - are regarded as sentient and intentional beings; so that the individual experiences a personal relationship with the world. Another potentially popular spiritual ability would probably be shamanism; in which states of altered consciousness (e.g. trances, delirium or dreams) are induced and the shaman may undergo the experience of transformations, 'soul journeys' and contact with a spirit realm. Ideally, shamanistic consciousness could be modulated such that trances were self-induced only when wanted and when it was safe and convenient; and then switched-off again completely when full alertness and concentration are necessary. It seems likely that there will be trade-offs for increased spirituality; such as people becoming less 'driven' to seek status and monetary rewards - as a result of being more spiritually fulfilled people might work less hard and take more leisure. On the other hand, it is also possible that highly moral, altruistic, peaceable and principled behaviours might become more prevalent; and the energy and joyousness of the best churches might spread and be strengthened. Overall, genospirituality would probably be used by people who were unable to have the kind of spiritual or religious experiences which they wanted (or perhaps even needed) in order to lead the kind of life to which they aspired."_
      PMID: 18782654
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18782654

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      Here's a published scientific study showing that experiments on manipulating VMAT2 (the alleged "God gene") are ongoing...
      *_"Novel N-1,2-Dihydroxypropyl Analogs of Lobelane Inhibit Vesicular Monoamine Transporter-2 Function and Methamphetamine-Evoked Dopamine Release"_* - (Oct. 2011).
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3186287/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      It's easier to read on scribd.
      www.scribd.com/document/65341680/FunVax-The-Fundamentalist-Vaccine

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      Funvax. It looks like there may be some truth to it.
      www.metabunk.org/attachments/funvax070601-pdf.5739/

  • Alias N/A
    Alias N/A 7 days ago +2

    I was diagnosed with autism. In some ways, it's a burden. In more ways, it's a gift. I'm a quick learner, I notice small sounds most people pay no mind to, I fixate on a task until it is completed, I make sure all of my chores are done.
    Aside from the attributes gifted by my condition, I'm also quite physically capable, if I may say so myself. I'm fast, I'm strong, I'm healthy.
    What would rob me of my mental and physical capabilities? Polio, measles, smallpox, awful things like that. I'd lose my ability to focus due to the excruciating symptoms, I could never run, I could never practice Taekwondo, I could never practice swordsmanship, I could never practice marksmanship of any type, I could never type as fast as I do now. But hey, so long as I don't have autism, right?
    My mother was a nurse, and she made damn sure all of her babies were vaccinated against those nasty diseases. My condition isn't from vaccination, autism and similar conditions have run through my father's bloodline for generations, a genetic meme.
    Because of my mother and the vaccines she made sure I received, I can still practice my hobbies, I can still do the things I love to do. I will take my autism over horrid ailments any day of the week, I will endure the anxiety, I will listen to the autism jokes, I will tolerate people insulting me over my condition, because that is all preferable to being bedridden and denied any quality of life.

    • Berd Boots
      Berd Boots 4 days ago

      they've made so many comments and have so many sources, one must have an incredibly boring life to do this sorta shit.

    • Alias N/A
      Alias N/A 4 days ago

      +Berd Boots I wouldn't give her any time, Berd.
      I'm inclined to believe she's a troll, so arguing with her is pointless.
      I added her to my mute list the moment I saw her comment, as the best troll deterrent is to shut the troll's face.

    • Berd Boots
      Berd Boots 4 days ago +1

      How many people have you met with polio Ima?

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 7 days ago

      Furthermore there are over 200 viruses that can cause respiratory infections and flu like symptoms. The flu shot has minimal protection to 3 or 4 of those viruses, these viruses are deemed "influenza". At the same time many studies have proven that the flu shot increases your chances of respiratory infections, which may be viral, fungal or bacteria. Over a 2 year period, patients treated at a hospital for respiratory infections were tested. Only 14% tested positive for influenza, and 32% tested positive for non-influenza viruses. So the flu shot offers minimal protection against 14% of the circulating respiratory viruses. Pneumonia is far more likely a result of non influenza viruses as well as fungal and bacterial infections than influenza. Keep in mind this study took place during the peak influenza season.
      *_"Other Respiratory Viruses Are Important Contributors to Adult Respiratory Hospitalizations and Mortality Even During Peak Weeks of the Influenza Season"_* - (2014)
      Gilca R, Amini R, Douville-fradet M, et al. Other respiratory viruses are important contributors to adult respiratory hospitalizations and mortality even during peak weeks of the influenza season. Open Forum Infect Dis. 2014;1(2):ofu086.
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4281811/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 7 days ago

      They don't vaccinate for smallpox anymore even though people still got smallpox who were vaccinated for it and a few died. It was known as "the Beggars Disease" in Austria. Even if you got polio, up to 95% of the people who have it don't even know they have it. Before the measles vaccine nearly all children in America got measles by the time they were 15 years of age per the CDC. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died per year out of a population of 189.24 million. _"Measles is the leading killer among vaccine-preventable diseases..."_
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23943263
      One in every three deaths in America is from heart disease and stroke, equal to 2,200 deaths per day. I think that has a higher priority over the measles. 803,000 Americans die per year from heart disease and stroke and only 400-500 Americans died per year of the measles before the vaccine..
      If 4,000,000 American children got measles each year before the vaccine per the CDC and only 400 of them died per year per the CDC, that means only one person out of 10,000 who got it died of it. Yet they claim, _"Measles is the leading killer among vaccine-preventable diseases..."_ Do you know what that means? It means none of the diseases there are vaccines for are big time killers. None of them were ever in the top 10 causes of death.
      Many people on the autism spectrum have difficulty processing everyday sensory information. Any of the senses may be over- or under-sensitive, or both, at different times. These sensory differences can affect behavior , and can have a profound effect on a person’s life. When you are unable to tune things out, it can lead to ADHD.

  • Happy Little Accident

    I didn't vaccinate my 3 children and they didn't survive till 10

    • U Got Beans?
      U Got Beans? 7 days ago

      Corey just brought up a weird but logical point. You just said the kid was murdered because he didn’t vaccinate his kid. Which sounds like you kind of support vaccines? Be a good Edward Nygma and riddle me that, Ima.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 7 days ago

      +Corey Playz - _argumentum ad hominem_ logical fallacy. _Argumentum ad hominem_ (also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
      Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is *completely irrelevant* to the argument the person is making.

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 7 days ago

      Also your supporting vaccines because you said YOU MURDERED THEM oMg and she/he was never vaccinated

    • Corey Playz
      Corey Playz 7 days ago

      You’re a idiot Ima Skeptic.

  • Pi is the best
    Pi is the best 7 days ago +1

    Apparently they’re saying now vaccines cause ADHD. But it’s one of the most f*cking genetic disorders out there! Where will it end? This is just people with children like these who don’t understand the science trying to blame something, anything, for what’s happened to their child. While these two disorders, depending on the severity, can actually benefit the child. If a worse severity, it’s just chance. These two disorders will never be outside invaders. It’s genetically impossible.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      _"Human brain development is controlled by immune-system signals (i.e. “cytokines”). Activation of the immune system during brain development causes disruptions in these signals, resulting in permanent brain damage and _*_autism specifically._*_ Adverse vaccine reactions are proven to stimulate the specific cytokine (interleukin-6) _*_proven to cause autism._*_ There is a large amount of research on this, by many laboratories around the world, but it is being ignored."_
      vaccinepapers.org/part-1-immune-activation-autism/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      See, we created a disease with vaccines and then turned around and created a drug for it. _"We also found _*_elevated plasma IL-6 levels_*_ in our rat model, which has been considered to be _*_one of the key mechanistic pathways in autism_*_ [56-58]. Daily postnatal pioglitazone treatment blocked the impairments found in terms of the time spent on social interaction, the number of vocalizations (i.e., autistic-like behaviors) and the elevated plasma IL-6 levels induced by LPS exposure in the offspring. Thus, _*_pioglitazone appears to be a relevant candidate for the treatment of autism._*_ There are no effective treatments for autism to date [16], and the currently available drugs have limited efficacies and trigger adverse effects [17]. The present findings may contribute to a better understanding and treatment of autism and associated diseases."_
      *_"Pioglitazone abolishes autistic-like behaviors via the IL-6 pathway"_* - (May 23, 2018).
      Kirsten TB, Casarin RC, Bernardi MM, Felicio LF. Pioglitazone abolishes autistic-like behaviors via the IL-6 pathway. PLoS ONE. 2018;13(5):e0197060.
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5965820/

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      +Pi - _False dilemma_ fallacy.
      www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/94/False-Dilemma

    • Pi is the best
      Pi is the best 7 days ago

      Ima Skeptic you spam me with replies, so I’ll keep going. A vaccine can’t cause autism. Because, uhh, autism is strongly related to doubling genetic material in the 22nd chromosome. Si you’re saying vaccines cause... double the genetic material in the 22nd chromosome? You’re definitely a retard.

    • Pi is the best
      Pi is the best 7 days ago

      Ima Skeptic also, as a proud autistic human, a view you as the retard. I mean, what other kid of person would get this into it? The fact you blame something that is entirely innocent and saves millions, if not, billions of lives, you definitely are a retard. Any person that is idiotic enough to consider going onto an autistic person’s comment and dictating why they have what they have is more or less the lowest legal thing a person can do. Get out of my life. Even if there is some study that supports you, get away from me and my comments, and my anything. I don’t want to hear from you ever again. Even if you believe these things, keep them away from autistic people, and people with ADHD, or child ADD, adult ADD, anything! Get out of my mother f*cking face!!!!!

  • Pi is the best
    Pi is the best 7 days ago

    The number of vaccines has gone up. The amount of autism has gone up.
    The amount of births has gone up.
    *VACCINES CAUSE BIRTHS!*

  • redlegagent
    redlegagent 8 days ago

    Poor, poor Ima Skeptic. Now that the word is out that Ima can not respond to intelligent queries about what they themselves post here in the comment sections = Ima now simply attempts to deflect away from that fact by labeling every post by someone else as some type of fallacy. The only fallacy involved here boys & girls is the one where Ima Skeptic for months now has attempted to pass themselves off as having credible evidence against vaccination.
    Unfortunately for Ima.................all they have accomplished here is further exposing the tenuous position of anti-vaccination which is predicated solely upon what the individual who espouses it's willingness to believe the same + the dubious sources and claims they base that belief upon. Better luck next time Ima.

    • redlegagent
      redlegagent 6 days ago

      +Madre - Marco has laid it out. Ima Skeptic = anti-vaxxer troll who floods this comment section with innuendo and misrepresentations of science via innumerable posts and cut & paste jobs. They are a textbook example of an industry shill as they offer no insight into what they post = they simply post ad nauseam.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      +Marco - when you comment with one logical fallacy after the next over and over again, it's clear you are intentionally being deceptive. It's no accident.

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago +1

      +Marco - your _genetic_ logical fallacies and your _ad hominem argument_ logical fallacies are a diversion and are irrelevant. It's a clear sign of deception.

    • Marco van de Weert
      Marco van de Weert 6 days ago +1

      Madre, Ima fake skeptic claims he states medical facts from the medical literature, but often these are extremely cherry-picked and subsequently distorted 'facts' from the medical literature. Just a few moments ago I pointed out how Ima fake Skeptic misrepresented a paper on ORV vs influenza hospitalizations. He's also known to cite papers from a journal called "medical hypothesis", which publishes wild ideas with very little evidence. It was deliberately created to allow crazy ideas out in the open. Ima fake skeptic handles them as "facts".

    • Ima Skeptic
      Ima Skeptic 6 days ago

      +Madre - *"Troll"* - _"a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by _*_posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments_*_ or other disruptive content."_
      _"to harass, criticize, or antagonize (someone) especially _*_by provocatively disparaging or mocking public statements, postings, or acts"_*
      www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll
      _Argumentum ad hominem_ (also known as: personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, refutation by caricature, against the person, against the man)
      Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.