Is Ant-Man Secretly the Most Powerful Avenger?

  • Published on Jul 5, 2018
  • When you think of powerful Avengers, you probably think of Hulk or Thor, but should we be considering Ant-Man too? Kyle has the quantum realm science on this week's Because Science!
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  • Because Science
    Because Science  11 days ago +309

    Thanks for watching! If your brain feels broken, you're not alone, trust me. *IMPORTANT CORRECTION* We'll get to this in the next Footnotes, but you don't actually need to "go sub-atomic" to experience quantum effects, at least in theory, and Ant-Man wouldn't even be able to get that small, considering that no matter how close his atoms get together, he still has atoms. I apologize for furthering the common misconception that "going quantum" is simply a matter of how big you are. -- KH

    • DawsonGrant
      DawsonGrant 11 hours ago

      Because Science I know, I purposely didn’t watch the trailer so I’d go into the movie knowing nothing. But it’s fine

    • Because Science
      Because Science  12 hours ago

      DawsonGrant Everything I said is in every trailer for the film, which came out two weeks ago. - KH

    • DawsonGrant
      DawsonGrant 12 hours ago

      You spoiled the villain for me, I'm sad now :(

    • Tauseef Baggia
      Tauseef Baggia 3 days ago

      Because Science I disagree. Think of Wanda (Scarlet Witch)

    • Mark Plutowski
      Mark Plutowski 3 days ago +1

      Only if he becomes akin to a virtual particle -- which are thus far just a theoretical convenience and have not been observed.

  • Ruby Red
    Ruby Red 43 minutes ago


  • Jon Dunmore
    Jon Dunmore 4 hours ago

    12:54 -- Macy's Thanksgiving Day Rose Parade.

  • Darth Extremist
    Darth Extremist 5 hours ago

    If ant man shrinking brings his atoms closer together, would ant man enlarging be his atoms spreading apart, and wouldn't that weaken the bonds in his molecules, basically ripping him into a cloud of particles?

  • Arc
    Arc 5 hours ago

    idk why but this guy makes me think of vsause 3

  • Stephan Rogers
    Stephan Rogers 7 hours ago

    Theoretical nonsense. Philosophical balderdash. When Ant Man is at the quantum level, he can't see anything in our world.

  • GeoPoliticsJunkie
    GeoPoliticsJunkie 10 hours ago

    ummm, going 1, 2 and 3 dimenisons already take up time.

  • Blue-handled broom
    Blue-handled broom 13 hours ago

    ant man is the reality stone change my mind

  • Rishin roy
    Rishin roy 17 hours ago

    In comics nadia van Dyne (Wasp) just gained quantumn powers. Just like dr. Strange could see multiple outcomes of a single event using time stone, she could now do the same but with quantumn powers

  • CYAN-Streakz
    CYAN-Streakz 17 hours ago

    Ok what would happen between ant man and vibrainim could he shrink trough it etc

  • Poké Maniac Nick
    Poké Maniac Nick 17 hours ago

    that pause and inhale at 5:45
    Kyle's channeling his inner Mordin Solus

  • Harry Pjotr
    Harry Pjotr Day ago

    Kyle if you're reading this.
    Won't antman be weak if he becomes large? Cuz in the movie, it said that when he shrinks, his energy will be focused on one single tiny body which makes him powerful. But if he grows bigger, his energy will be spread throughout the bigger body making him weaker.

  • Evan Cook
    Evan Cook Day ago

    Wouldn't antman freeze to death if he retained the same mass and grew to 60 feet. Conversely, wouldn't he boil to death if he shrank?

  • Red Lego Brick
    Red Lego Brick Day ago

    Doc strange will murder him

  • peter u
    peter u Day ago

    wait! could Antman defeat Thanos?!

  • kweassa
    kweassa Day ago

    another excellent educational material.. two thumbs up!

  • Secret_ Brian
    Secret_ Brian Day ago

    Ant-man is the most powerful avenger because he can go in peoples ears then become big and BOOM

  • Samurai Takuan
    Samurai Takuan Day ago

    Maybe this is what the next Avengers movie will be about Thanos got rid of half the Universe and Antman will save it and oml this would be amazing

  • Logan Rodriguez
    Logan Rodriguez Day ago

    Scarlet Witch

  • Soumya Gangopadhyay

    When Bruce Banner becomes the Hulk, from where does he gets the mass to grow? Same question for the Ant-Man. Banner becomes stronger and bigger as he gets angrier, hence, his body density isn't reducing, if anything, its actually increasing. How is that possible.
    When Hank Pym shrunk down a giant building, how the hell he was carrying it around like a FedEx delivery box. Same question for his car collection box.

  • Bogdan Haczewski

    Ant man saves the world by dancing in avengers 4

  • HEALTH TIPS FOR EVERYONE : life saving

    kinda confusing but i like it

  • HagenYHD / Hagen
    HagenYHD / Hagen 2 days ago

    I’d like to see Antman vs. The Flash.

  • Brandon Holian
    Brandon Holian 2 days ago

    Electrons are small enough. So free will is real. Our brains are electrical impulses traveling through a matrix which cause our decisions. So no we arent too big.

  • Izrael Magoncia
    Izrael Magoncia 2 days ago

    For me he looks like Ryan Reynolds with a long hair and a beard haha

  • The crafting carter
    The crafting carter 2 days ago

    Reminds me of professor paradox from Ben 10

  • Davis Tran
    Davis Tran 2 days ago

    Could you guys figure out how far a car shrunk down to the size of a Hot Wheels car go?

  • Alessia Aikley
    Alessia Aikley 2 days ago

    I don't think its secretly. He could just go into the ear of any other avenger, and hit the return to full size button.

  • al145
    al145 2 days ago

    ...but why male models?

  • hellrider22393
    hellrider22393 2 days ago

    haha buff grimace

  • Derek Drake
    Derek Drake 2 days ago


  • ridwan khan
    ridwan khan 2 days ago

    Isn’t this what some of the infinity stones do? For example the reality Stone changes what reality looks like( manipulation of photons?).

  • KenzieHurlock
    KenzieHurlock 2 days ago

    But Kyle you are Thor

  • Rigel Sinco
    Rigel Sinco 2 days ago

    He could potentially beat any superhero out there, not just limited to Marvel's.

  • Hooishcorn!!
    Hooishcorn!! 2 days ago

    Thank you Thor, very cool.

  • TheMysticMinecart //Myles

    I guess ant man found what was at the center of the earth..... and the universe, and everything....... and probably no longer exists since he fell through everything you can touch

  • Brodie Wicks
    Brodie Wicks 2 days ago

    how do they do the overlay effects?

  • Lazaros Bounartzis
    Lazaros Bounartzis 2 days ago

    Does that make Antman a second reality stone?

  • Robert Garnica
    Robert Garnica 2 days ago

    that nipple zoom at the end tho

  • mr mystery
    mr mystery 3 days ago +1

    When antman is small most of his weight goes to a pocket dimension

  • Pangasauras
    Pangasauras 3 days ago

    I tried so hard not to, but I got so lost lol

  • _CYB3R_ W1Z4RD_ 2.0
    _CYB3R_ W1Z4RD_ 2.0 3 days ago +1

    Ant-Man become small because of the Pym Particles and that Particles can tamper both Mass and Volume, yes MASS. It's a fictional Particles okay, so it's impossible to put 10 Tons into your pocket without ripping off your pants, or a lot of 5 Tons of vehicle into a Hotwheel Case.

  • CAM Gaming
    CAM Gaming 3 days ago

    Now I feel way way way smarter.

  • Odinson42
    Odinson42 3 days ago

    Will a super dense object always be spherical? If this were the case, would Ant-Man be able to maintain his shape when shrinking?

  • Greylegato
    Greylegato 3 days ago

    So.... you could say that he has good... volume control...

  • Luke Thomas
    Luke Thomas 3 days ago


  • TheRPGentleman
    TheRPGentleman 3 days ago

    I just realized that the abbreviation for Because Science is *BS.* Kind of a fitting coincidence if you ask me.

  • Andy Deleon
    Andy Deleon 3 days ago

    What if ant man goes inside of thanos and put those bombs that make things big or small and just makes thanos’s brain to big or too small depending on which works better

  • Nappa Zappa the Kappa Tappa the Rappa

    Ant man's logic makes no sense in our universe, even with the explination given in the movies. No matter how close atoms get they wouldn't be able to shrink smaller than other atoms -that would imply that they overlap. Not to mention the synapses in Scott's brain would cease to exist, which would kill him.
    My theory is that Pym particles basically move the object they touch into a different layer of reality, then shrink that layer like you would do in Photoshop. That way, the layer the object is moved into retains all the rules of our universe without killing anyone or creating singularities.

  • Tobi 007
    Tobi 007 3 days ago

    But doesn't Antman observating cause the collapse of his own wave funtion? That means, quantum effects shouldn't have effects on him right?

  • Mark Rosslee
    Mark Rosslee 3 days ago

    His suit stabilizes his mass that's why he can't shrink without it I mean I'm pretty sure that's why or maybe he has the ability to change his mass because of the technology in the suit

  • justin bigby
    justin bigby 3 days ago

    Say, how small do you have to be to not be able to see? Assuming that humans see using photons of light in our eyes, how small are photons?

  • Antonio Moyado-Green

    Of course! He can create black holes!!

  • Pantfx
    Pantfx 3 days ago

    Hey Kyle, great job as always, just a correction from a fellow theoretical physicist.
    You mentioned the work of Richard Feynman and how he revolutionalized how we deal with moving particles, and he really did. But one thing many people get wrong when they first hear about his theories is the supposed movement "backwards through time". While this and the thing you said about the infinite paths of a particle are true, these are merely mathematical tools with almost no physical meaning. A particle isn't actually moving backwards through time, it sipmply means that it is the corresponding anti-particle moving through "normal" unreversed time. It really is just a minus sign put in front of time (and energy) in our equations to make our life easier. Really.
    And about the thing with infinite paths, that is also a mathematical tool, namely an infinite sum (or integral). It's a really old (and wierd) mathematical concept to make integration work, it does not mean that the particle actually takes ALL the paths.
    (P.S. I know there are pure quantum theorists who will actually fight this notion and actually agree with you, but that's simply due to the wierdness of quantum mechanics)

  • Aaron Scoggins
    Aaron Scoggins 3 days ago

    Tfw you realize the silver portal things coming from people's chests in Donnie Darko were basically world lines

  • Chong Zhen
    Chong Zhen 3 days ago

    Because science I have to tell you that when ant man when he s small he s still has he s own strength

  • John Apple
    John Apple 4 days ago

    Why is Shia Labuff doing science videos now? (sorry bad english I am from Croatia)

  • tuyo3
    tuyo3 4 days ago

    Remember how in the Ant Man movie, they said when he got small he had the punch force of a 150 lb man packed into the area of a pin, making his fist equivalent to a bullet?
    Wouldn’t that mean when he went Gi-Ant man, he would still be punching at the strength of a 150 lb man, yet it would be spread over the area of like a truck, making his giant punches super slow and weak??

  • tuyo3
    tuyo3 4 days ago

    I haven’t been happier to find a new USclipr since Captain Disillusion (to whom I was embarassingly late)!! Auto bell!

  • Pro Gamer Tr
    Pro Gamer Tr 4 days ago


  • Jessica withee
    Jessica withee 4 days ago

    You and matpat should have a collab!

  • liquidrock2u
    liquidrock2u 4 days ago

    Is this how Santa Clause get to all the houses in one night?

  • Timothy Adry
    Timothy Adry 4 days ago

    If antmant compresses him self into supersmall smaller than planck.. Didnt he supposed to be Blackhole by his own mass? And isnt blackhole also mess around with spacetime continuum? Did they just went so smal that they go blackhole reality this entire time? Once go there no turning back?? Is that what it meant???

  • Randall Barton
    Randall Barton 4 days ago

    oh and he can allso make a black hole if hes that small wich he has been so... yah

  • Oso Meloso
    Oso Meloso 4 days ago

    Best episode yet, my brain exploded into nothingness.

  • ColeTrain316
    ColeTrain316 4 days ago

    I don't know why they went with compression as the mechanism for Ant Man's shrinking in the MCU. It makes so much more sense that their mass is "pushed into another dimension" or some something else dumb that would at least be consistent with the actions we see Scott Lang take in the movies.
    Also, I want Tony to figure out some dumb quantum mechanics nonsense and make this work.

  • Van Ivanov
    Van Ivanov 4 days ago +1

    Where did you learn this, comic books? Seriously, _time is a thread like the three sisters of Fate?_ You're a complete moron... there's no science for that. Einstein proved that there was no Greek concept of time, where the past exists alongside the present and future. The dimension of time is affected by gravity, the effect being that energy transfers more quickly or more slowly.
    This is dumber than how Dark Matter was Evolved from the God of the Gaps.

  • Valentin S
    Valentin S 4 days ago

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the end you said that you could easily carry antman around if he turns big, but it just changes his density and not his weight, so as long as I'm not strong enough to carry him in his normal state it wouldn't matter for me (unless he hovers because his density is near or below the density of the atmosphere)? For example I don't care if the back is full of feathers or stones, as long as it weights too much I wouldn't be able to carry each of them (I neglect the fact that the feather back would be very big, so the feathers aren't compressed to much).
    Or would it be like in water where I can carry much more weight due to the density differences?

  • james81693
    james81693 4 days ago

    I think I may have a decent example of that control over world lines power you were talking about. In a fairly new anime called Juni Taisen:Zodiac War there is a character named rat and on the last episode he displays a power where he can essentially choose what world line he wants to use. It comes with a pretty big price though.

  • Gürkan Gündoğdu
    Gürkan Gündoğdu 4 days ago +1

    0:09 me??

  • Zac Lee
    Zac Lee 4 days ago

    Half the verse is not dead, they're trapped in the soul stone

  • Stanislav Silbermann

    11:34 So basically Ant-Man has the same power as Q from Star Trek.

  • Henry Chea
    Henry Chea 4 days ago

    Doesn’t this seem a lot like Dr. Manhattans powers?

  • PJ Dillon
    PJ Dillon 4 days ago

    Future Video: If the microwave emitter from Batman Begins was real, what would really happen to every fleshy organic creature anywhere near it? The army has a non-lethal pain beam you could reference

  • Randomzebra123
    Randomzebra123 4 days ago

    What a great introduction to quantum mechanics, thanks Kyle!

  • Celtic Angel
    Celtic Angel 4 days ago

    what about parallel worlds in which the origin is the point of conception in that at least 2 you were created of which one is male and the other is female and until u are born both options are true and fales like schrodinger's cat then at the point of birth the gender u are born as then becomes the origin (unless during the ultrasound the parents ask what sex u are), with that as every second passes there is a world created in which u suddenly die and all those realities of possibility would still continue, it is just that a the point in which a choice is made whether or not u are aware of the act the mind would duplicate an follow the event chosen and ending when u become dust in the void ( if wording sounds/is wrong i am sorry)

  • HKG
    HKG 4 days ago +1

    You people copied the FilmTheory's idea

  • Lil Denz the Swag God

    90% of this video had nothing to do with ant man

  • Brendan Cleaver
    Brendan Cleaver 5 days ago

    Hey Kyle!
    I'm just watching the first Thor, and I'm curious about the scene when Thor just gets hit hammer back, and it spins so fast he creates a tornado. I'm curious how fast Mjilnir would have to spin to 1) create a tornado, and 2) how fast it would have to spin to create a tornado strong enough to lift a metal giant

  • Carter Willis
    Carter Willis 5 days ago

    id say Thor

  • Stewart Tomkinson
    Stewart Tomkinson 5 days ago

    i go there every knight its called dreaming

  • Zen Dystopia
    Zen Dystopia 5 days ago

    I reject your reality and substitute my own!

  • Dighton Hekman
    Dighton Hekman 5 days ago

    Somethings force of gravity doesn't necessarily have to be to stay the same when mass stays the same. If space time is worped heavily in an area the relative size of human it will change how much the human is effected by gravity. That would explain how antman can ride on the back of an ant while retaining his mass, he has a lower gravitational constant and there for much less weight, and there for also wouldn't straight up fall through buildings.

    • Dighton Hekman
      Dighton Hekman 5 days ago

      This explanation would also explain how he can go sub atomi space is expanded to fit more matter in a space that is considered small to everything around it. (Think of it like a map of the the world with a bubble on it that's scaled differently than the rest of the map, the pym partical creates pockets of space for "shrunken objects to sit in".

  • Eli Cage
    Eli Cage 5 days ago

    This is my favorite episode on this channel

  • wwtapsable
    wwtapsable 5 days ago

    I'm pretty sure either shrunken things don't retain all their mass or hank pimm has been doing some serious working out holding a 70 ton tank on a fucking key chain

  • Richard Feng
    Richard Feng 5 days ago

    ...buuuuut then he dies because his red blood cells aren't big enough to carry the hemoglobin anymore

  • Snat The Wolf
    Snat The Wolf 5 days ago

    What if this is just spoilers for avengers 4 lol

  • LukeR2002
    LukeR2002 5 days ago

    How is it possible for ant man to go subatomic? Shouldn’t he be only able to only shrink to the size of an atom? Or does changing electrons to muons make the atom smaller?

  • diamondunicorn1983
    diamondunicorn1983 5 days ago

    so in the doctor who episode...the name of the doctor....the doctors personal timeline would be a pretty close approximation of what worldlines would look like

  • Theldras Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

    in the first ant-man they establish that the pym particle decrease the distance betwen atoms, thus a object still retains its mass even thou its size change, in the very same movie we see hank pym carry around a shrunk actual working tank in his keychain, in infinity war we see ant-man grow big and super strong, even thou in the last movie it was established that he retains his strenght from normal size, according to the first movie he shuld allso retain his normal size mass even thou he grew to the size of a 747, in ant-man and the wasp he grows even larger...
    marvel is not exactly stellar in keeping to their own established rules, but ant-man takes that stuff to a whole new level.
    and shrinking himself to sub-atomic size he realy shuld collapse into a black hole.

  • Saigai Hikigane
    Saigai Hikigane 5 days ago

    Okay, but if photons cancel each other out at quantum sizes then what stops Ant-man from being cancelled out by another Ant-man?

  • Benjamin Robledo
    Benjamin Robledo 5 days ago +1

    Just one question.


    Oh, here's another.
    Can you repeat everything you said in a dumber version...I'm confuzld

  • Max Andrew
    Max Andrew 5 days ago

    5:18 to 7:54 is blew my mind

  • Austin Brown
    Austin Brown 5 days ago

    Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle just wrote the Avengers 4 plot for us.

  • Emmanuel Debrah
    Emmanuel Debrah 5 days ago

    Batman can save the Avengers

  • Pereira industries
    Pereira industries 5 days ago

    Antman is not quantumman, he is antman, he does not have the powers of a quantum, he has the powers of an ant.

    ... including goliath ants and baby ants.

  • Jomega
    Jomega 5 days ago

    The quantum-realm scene is very inaccurate. You can't see a single atom, and the nucleus is way to big in the scene. Also, what are these crystal-shaped objects at the end of the shrinking process? And how can Antman shrink his atoms?
    We can be sure that his abilities are profoundly scientifically inaccurate, so why should we use science for thinking about other possible abilities? The writers of the story can write about whatever stupid aspects of a hero they want, regardless of the laws of physics that contradict them. I know, such thought experiments can be fun, but dont expect your theses to be "true." Also, correct me if I'm wrong.

  • Eric Shovelton
    Eric Shovelton 5 days ago

    excellent program but I need to ask....what video game music is used in this episode. I know I have spent hours playing a game with that repetitive musical piece played.

  • TheFezzik
    TheFezzik 5 days ago

    I don't see one about being immortal (iea vampire or something along those lines). From my understanding a few things would happen. Your perception of time would be extremely skewed (weeks would be days, days hours, and so on) and there would be a massive population issue. I am sure I am missing other things, but I am sure you could cover them.

  • Ken Dye
    Ken Dye 5 days ago

    The light reflection thing reminds me of the "dead cat in a box" experiment where we don't know if the cat is dead or not until someone observes it one way or the other.