The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice

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  • Published on Apr 15, 2019
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    Two Boeing airplanes have fallen out of the air and crashed in the past six months. On the surface, this is a technical failure. But the real story is about a company's desire to beat their rival.
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Comments • 19 569

  • papillon
    papillon 40 minutes ago +1

    This is scandalous! This is criminal negligence! Boeing should be sued by each and every one of the families of the victims, and I hope those families take them to the cleaners!

  • Sir Yeti
    Sir Yeti 10 hours ago +1

    This is worst than the early DC-10 safety record.

  • EVE
    EVE 10 hours ago +2

    Cheapskate

  • Ken M
    Ken M 15 hours ago +1

    It all comes down to.. save money from research and development of a new plane by using the old ones.. just put a new engine and use a software to balance it out.. greed!

  • Saiah smeth
    Saiah smeth 16 hours ago +1

    The new was a failure

  • Saiah smeth
    Saiah smeth 16 hours ago +1

    Keep in mind flying a 737 max is still 100 times safer then driving a car

  • real life gaming/101
    real life gaming/101 16 hours ago +1

    Out of 19k comments i reached the bottom comment

  • paazbra
    paazbra 17 hours ago

    By the way... Where are Lepore and Paladino?

  • Ron Wylie
    Ron Wylie 17 hours ago

    Thank you for that, very well explained, far better than the slender news companies dished out, whoever made the decision to not tell and not train the pilots killed those people, and even worse when the first plane went down they didnt hold their hands up and ground the whole fleet. Wait and see if ANYONE is jailed from this. It is like the Challenger crash, one man insisted that it should take off while the company reps who designed the 'O' rings {the cause of the crash} begged them not to, it was costing NASa money to stop coundowns so he made new rules, The manufacturors people told them it would blow up on the pad. He didnt go to jail, they promoted him

  • Boy Trent
    Boy Trent 18 hours ago

    indonesia and ethiopia - not america........mmmmmm!?

  • Mason Ross
    Mason Ross 23 hours ago

    Hnz

  • inboxaddict44
    inboxaddict44 Day ago

    May Boeing go bankrupt and cease to exist for this, and those responsible go to prison for life.

  • You_want_some_gamer

    Hey Vox can you make an updated video on the 737 max?

  • Josiah Keo-Pelagio

    What if boeing just upgrade the wheels and then make the engine big

  • Rudolf Craig
    Rudolf Craig Day ago +1

    A big big problem is that most certain this plane will not be grounded permanently, instead Boing with their strong lobbying organisation will force us regular people into the planes once again, still trusting a software with a artificial helping system to balance a totally wrong and dangerous design and construction.

  • LisztyLiszt
    LisztyLiszt Day ago

    The engines were also further forward

  • James Evenden
    James Evenden Day ago

    Lockheed should start building commercial airliners again!

  • Rugger
    Rugger Day ago

    I flew on a Max twice across country and it performed flawlessly.

  • Celestial
    Celestial Day ago

    Boeing: let’s endanger people to save money.
    STONKS

  • Shahel Hasan
    Shahel Hasan Day ago

    Boeing is well known for cutting corners. They forgot to think about peoples life.

  • Ride Red
    Ride Red 2 days ago

    Thanks for the video, That helped clear up the problem in a few minutes.

  • Gordy Bing
    Gordy Bing 2 days ago

    Hi All, Or build new wings, with the pylons on the top of the wing, and behind the leading edge. That would make it nice for military use on grass runways, or as a seaplane. Thanks.

  • Gordy Bing
    Gordy Bing 2 days ago

    Hi All, Question is, what do we do now? I would rip off those big engines, replace with standard engines, start with clean sheet of paper and design new plane for big engines. Thanks for your time, take care.

  • Kilroy was Here
    Kilroy was Here 2 days ago

    There isn’t anything wrong with the plane but there is a problem with the training

  • qorgusdlr
    qorgusdlr 2 days ago

    Engineers probably knew all about this problem......

  • Khalid Hebshi
    Khalid Hebshi 2 days ago

    MCAS means: May Crash Any Second lol 😂

  • Yang Cao
    Yang Cao 2 days ago

    Boeing & FAA are the criminals...MCAS=MAY CRASH ANY SECOND

  • Titus Rowell
    Titus Rowell 3 days ago

    I got a few ideas for fixes
    1.update the software with the new feature called "takeoff mode". enabled by the pilot before takeoff and automatically turn off after a certain altitude.
    2.require the new pilots to use a simulator for training regardless of whatever the pilot ever flew the 737ng or not

  • Kuba's Games
    Kuba's Games 3 days ago +1

    Airbus has similar system on many of their planes. Some times it failed but luckily their planes were in high altitude so nothing happened. But no one talks about it...

  • Xom9k
    Xom9k 3 days ago

    Видео оплаченно Айрбас?

  • Dimitar Stoyanov
    Dimitar Stoyanov 3 days ago

    They update aircraft's software like it's running a Windows update lol

  • No Hiss
    No Hiss 3 days ago

    Maybe the pilots oversized buck tooth fell out and got lodged in the rudder controls. We'll never know the whole story.

  • kittyissu
    kittyissu 3 days ago

    The people who approved this, the people who worked on this and didn`t tell, should be in jail for life now

  • carlos alefaio
    carlos alefaio 3 days ago

    Money is the root of all evil

  • Mr. Otero
    Mr. Otero 3 days ago

    Why so many airline accidents out if Jakarta?????

  • Ermo Mejremic
    Ermo Mejremic 4 days ago

    Now it’s gone cost them more only if they didn’t cut corners

  • Crythos 么.
    Crythos 么. 4 days ago

    airbus > boeing

  • soldier SAM
    soldier SAM 4 days ago

    Money is more important then lives for these bunch of people who fear hunger .

  • S.C. Paulson
    S.C. Paulson 4 days ago

    GET RID OF THIS PLANE.

  • Pawan Kumar
    Pawan Kumar 4 days ago +1

    Boeing must be punished. Severely punished. It should sting them so much (financially, morally, etc...) that they won't forget it ever in future. Terminate the concerned from it's chief to the entire team responsible. This is cold-blooded murder. Had American citizens died in American 737Max planes, their punishment would have been more severe. Shame. Victims families must get a few billion $.

  • Antonio Brown
    Antonio Brown 4 days ago

    So when the plane under hard thrust it's being bent like a banana?....but it's OK because when it's cruising the plane straightens out again.
    And the air-frame was designed in the 1960s
    Go and get a piece wire and bend it in your hands....and then straighten it out again....repeat ...and after some time the single piece of wire turns into two pieces of wire!

  • Mae G.
    Mae G. 4 days ago +1

    rest in peace to all the people who died in the plane crash. :(

  • oldguy10010M
    oldguy10010M 4 days ago

    Some people at boeing need to go to jail for the rest of their lives. No amount of money will undo the harm they have done. They need to suffer and have plenty of time to consider what they did to all those trusting souls.

  • Ali Mohmmed
    Ali Mohmmed 4 days ago

    This shouldn’t pass that easily

  • Steven Stevensen
    Steven Stevensen 4 days ago +2

    It's like putting plasters on a wound but never healing the wound itself.

  • Ashutosh Mahajan
    Ashutosh Mahajan 4 days ago +5

    US takes lives in each country in each way possible....There in the form of war, here in the form of Boeing!

  • Billybob Joe
    Billybob Joe 4 days ago

    Boeing? Not going!!!

  • Suman Nath
    Suman Nath 4 days ago +1

    Yes correct there was design failed.

  • Glenn Lopez
    Glenn Lopez 4 days ago +1

    I thought engineers had pinky rings that serves as a reminder to live by a high standard of professional conduct before they sign off on a design.

  • RhysM2005
    RhysM2005 5 days ago

    Once again, good old airbus :)

  • Pooyan Matin
    Pooyan Matin 5 days ago

    Real reason is Boeing agreed and disregard for human life.

  • Wan Khairul anuar
    Wan Khairul anuar 5 days ago

    Why don't they increase the plane height make it like Airbus put the engine lower

  • TruiteTeam
    TruiteTeam 5 days ago

    Actually pilots weren't skilled enough to hold this problem, in case of trouble you should remove the autopilote and land the plane by yourself, if a pilot can't do that he should be fired.

  • Joo o
    Joo o 5 days ago

    so what? 737 max isnt the only airplane that has crashed twice

  • Knarf Nil
    Knarf Nil 5 days ago +4

    No amount of software fixes and pilot training can change the obvious and critical design flaw with respect to the engine mounting locations, for the altered centre of gravity affect plane takeoffs and landings.

  • Yiwan Ye
    Yiwan Ye 5 days ago +1

    The U.S. is known for aggressiveness, the medicine, the cars, the plane, and the program

  • Zac Stamenic
    Zac Stamenic 5 days ago

    IF ITS A BOEING I'M NOT GOING

  • Zac Stamenic
    Zac Stamenic 5 days ago +1

    BE SAFE AND FLY AIR BUS I KNOW AS I WORKED THERE THE 777 ARE DANGEROUS ALSO WITH MANY FAULTS SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET

    • kittyissu
      kittyissu 3 days ago

      If you would have worked for airbus you would probably said the same things.

  • Zac Stamenic
    Zac Stamenic 5 days ago +1

    SAVE YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS VOTE NO TO FLYING BOEING AS THEY DON'T CARE FOR PEOPLE JUST PROFITS.

  • Zac Stamenic
    Zac Stamenic 5 days ago

    IT WITH THE PEOPLE AND WE MAKE THE CHOICES TO FLY NOT THE COMPANY YOU VOTE WHEN YOU BUY YOUR TICKETS AND NOT NO TO FLYING BOEING.

  • Zac Stamenic
    Zac Stamenic 5 days ago

    BOEINGS ARE FLYING COFFINS

  • Zac Stamenic
    Zac Stamenic 5 days ago

    IF IT BOEING IM NOT GOING

  • Jortiz
    Jortiz 5 days ago +3

    The CEO of Boeing and everyone else in that table should be jailed for the rest of their lives.

  • Sharbel _
    Sharbel _ 5 days ago

    Rip everyone on those planes ✊🏽😔

  • Spectrum Man
    Spectrum Man 5 days ago

    Incompetence, greed and stupidity.
    Why I have such a disdan for the airline industry and avoid flying at all costs.

  • I M A QYN
    I M A QYN 5 days ago +2

    This what happens when a psychopath becomes a CEO.

  • James E. Morris
    James E. Morris 5 days ago

    This is by far the best way i've heard this explained..

  • Tameem
    Tameem 5 days ago +1

    Just raise the landing gear and your done

  • AlphaRewop0965
    AlphaRewop0965 6 days ago

    Greed. Am I right?

  • Sigma Geranimo
    Sigma Geranimo 6 days ago

    Life is cheap

  • torrace12
    torrace12 6 days ago

    Boeings present problems started when they decided to stop developing radical new products from scratch in the late 80s
    now they sit on airplane bodies frames and other parts that was designed in the 50s
    its a huge developement lag that they will never compensate
    that is the reason all new models are a patchwork with more and more instabilities built in to them
    in the future we will see planes fall from the skies like it is raining due to this

  • Frank Cree
    Frank Cree 6 days ago

    This could finish Boeing. When (if) they ever get their software bodge to work well enough to re-certify the 737MAX, who would actually consider flying in one? Not me, & probably not anyone. Who do they then sell a few hundred new scrap airliners to? While they are sued by a couple of dozen airlines.

  • NGEPRONE GEMING
    NGEPRONE GEMING 6 days ago

    Employee:Sir we have problem with the pipes!
    Boss:use flextape to fix it

  • Kino C
    Kino C 6 days ago

    The problem isn't that the 737 had technical issues, this is normal. The problem lies in the fact that Boeing and the FAA KNEW about the PROBLEMS and did NOTHING. Negligence at it's finest!

  • H.I.M
    H.I.M 6 days ago

    They shouldve just got the MAX 9

  • John Pitzer
    John Pitzer 6 days ago

    The real reason is, A lion air flew the plane 4 flights in 3 days with the aircraft in a unairworthy condition with a known flight control issue, B the Ethiopian flight crashed due to a bird strike damaging the captains aia vane, an unqualified FO, and a flight crew who did not follow the procedure, by throttling the engines back, and a reliance on the auto pilot on take off!

  • Blue Sky
    Blue Sky 6 days ago

    Make sure you are no longer boarding on Boeing. -- Just a safety precaution,

    • Uriel rodriguez
      Uriel rodriguez 6 days ago

      Blue Sky that’s just the 737 max. The 787,777,767,747,757, and the older generation of 737s are completely safe to fly on.

  • davidtsw
    davidtsw 6 days ago +1

    I'm not gonna fly on one of these until this is properly fixed. Hope the MAX stays grounded for as long as needed and people responsible for this should face prison.

  • ferdie fox
    ferdie fox 6 days ago

    My moms on the way to DC and I just texted her about this. Probably not a good time. : / sorry mom

  • tHiCc bUnny
    tHiCc bUnny 6 days ago

    So Uhm family’s died and lost their kids due to airbus and Boeing’s rivalry. WHY DIDNT THEY JUST PUT THE WIND TUBE UNDER EARLIER AND THEH WOUDLNT BE IN THAT MESS

  • Coffee Is Life
    Coffee Is Life 6 days ago +1

    TO EVERYONE! Write letters to your airlines and tell them NOT to purchase any 737 MAX planes if they want your business. Also check your flight tickets, the type of plane you will fly on is listed. Keep your families safe! DO NOT reward Boeing's utter greed and indifference for the deaths of 300+ innocent people, by supporting their defective, unsafe product. Boeing needs to: 1. Fire the CEO. 2. publicly apologize for trying to blame the death of civilians on dead pilots instead of taking the responsibility themselves. 3. Start from the ground up with the new design, not try to shoehorn a 60 year old design, just because Airbus is beating the brakes off of you with safer, better airplanes. 4. Learn to put passenger safety before greed and profits. And then after 5 years of problem free flying, I will consider flying Boeing again. Until then, IF IT'S BOEING, I AIN"T GOING! End of story!

  • A Little Disorganized
    A Little Disorganized 7 days ago +2

    thank you so much for the info because i was on an american 737 max 8 and it did feel a little steep of takeoff

  • Binny Woo
    Binny Woo 7 days ago

    I got actual chills seeing all the IDs at 5:37

  • PrimalMiltos
    PrimalMiltos 7 days ago

    Erich Hartmann couldn't fly a Boeing 737 Max plane. Somehow manufacturer's think all their products are operated by 5-year-olds. Don't want to wear your car seat belt? The chime and dash light will annoy the heck out of you IMPAIRING driving. Want your front passenger to program your car's Navigation while YOU are driving? Sorry the Nanny said NO. Want to raise the volume or screen brightness on your cellphone? Let's add a warning EVERY time. Wan't to disengage the autopilot and fly the Boeing 737 Max? Sorry the MCAS Nanny said NO.
    The "Nanny Philosophy" used to just be annoying but now it causes commercial aircraft with 150 people to plunge straight to the ground.

  • shah Khaja
    shah Khaja 7 days ago +1

    Playing with people's lives just for the sake of making more money... KARMA will find its way to those who are responsible... On the day of Judgement, GOD will punish those who are responsible

  • Jonathan Tillman
    Jonathan Tillman 7 days ago

    Capitalism

  • Chuan Hui
    Chuan Hui 8 days ago

    the american make no good plane

  • Iqbal Muhammad
    Iqbal Muhammad 8 days ago

    The lion air and Ethiopia air is too much sacrifice 😭😭😭

  • secret
    secret 8 days ago +3

    FAA boss need to be fire immediately and Boeing CEO needs to be in jail right now

  • J W
    J W 8 days ago

    MCAS: My Controls Aint Safe

  • W. Todd Clark
    W. Todd Clark 8 days ago +5

    They ought to make the CEO and senior executive leadership of Boeing ride in their 737 Max airplane if they say it is so safe.

    • Myth Hunters Roblox
      Myth Hunters Roblox 5 days ago

      The Lion Air plane wasn’t even flightworthy. It could have been prevented by who you say? Boeing? nah! Lion Air Group itself!

    • S C
      S C 5 days ago

      And? The max is as safe and stable as any plane in the sky. Will be evem better when it returns to service.

    • John Pitzer
      John Pitzer 6 days ago

      I will the first to fly on one right now!

  • Ming Leo
    Ming Leo 8 days ago

    China banned 737Max timely while Trump and Southwest Airline was keep going....

  • pax und peace
    pax und peace 8 days ago

    It is Boeings fault.

  • Neil Gupta
    Neil Gupta 8 days ago

    2:20 Can't they just make the landing gear a bit taller?

    • Luis Quezada
      Luis Quezada 5 days ago

      Neil Gupta they would ned to redesign gates, would make the plane much heavier, which is an issue for the boeing 737 since the couldn’t even add doors for the rear wheels, they’re exposed to the air after they are raised, bc it would’ve made the plane too heavy, etc. It’s cheaper to design a bandaid software, trust me.

    • Neil Gupta
      Neil Gupta 7 days ago

      @Luis Quezada That doesn't make sense.

    • Luis Quezada
      Luis Quezada 7 days ago

      Too expensive

  • Alan Bull
    Alan Bull 8 days ago

    737 max deathtrap and boeing finished
    Airbus congrats

  • benoit nadeau
    benoit nadeau 8 days ago

    Blame on Iran

  • Andromeda
    Andromeda 8 days ago

    The MD-11 Had two crashes, both of which where on landing and it was due to a new system revision of the older, DC-10. Boeing address and fixed this issue. Why is this different? Because we now have wide use of the internet, and people can scream louder even when they are wrong.

  • gingerjoe1972
    gingerjoe1972 9 days ago

    Nice vid and good basic explanation of what happened. Fingers crossed they get this sorted.

  • Jack Riley
    Jack Riley 9 days ago

    ancient history!!