Film Theory: Is Suicide Squad's Joker ACTUALLY Batman's Boy Wonder?

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  • Published on Jun 1, 2017
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    With Wonder Woman coming out in theaters this week, I felt it was time to take a look back at some of DC's other movies from the past few years. Specifically, Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad. Back before Suicide Squad and Batman v. Superman hit theaters, there was a theory kicking around that Jared Leto's Joker was secretly Batman's sidekick, Robin. But the Director of Suicide Squad, David Ayer, seemed to dismiss this saying that Jason Todd, former Robin #2 was NOT the Joker. However, the proof we cover today shows that Suicide Squad's Joker can still be Robin...just not the Robin that everyone thought.
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  • DisGuyRightHere
    DisGuyRightHere 2 hours ago

    NESS IS DICK GRAYSON COMFIRMED

  • Hero Brian
    Hero Brian 4 hours ago

    what about Damien

  • Ilan Zelig
    Ilan Zelig 5 hours ago +1

    I met the original batman and Robin 2 years ago. Sadly Adam West, batman died last year. If u want to go meet other people go to chiller theater

  • IDK Infinity
    IDK Infinity 6 hours ago

    Or there was a joker before tim drake but then the joker was dying so he needed a replacement so he took Tim drake

  • Eddie Almaguer
    Eddie Almaguer 11 hours ago

    Borito+Naruto=baruto

  • Jessica Zingher
    Jessica Zingher 12 hours ago

    I wonder if it exsplains this in the joker movie

  • Ressina Rasheed
    Ressina Rasheed 13 hours ago

    Hey the original jocker is coming in the new dcu movie JOCKER

  • Danny Wilson
    Danny Wilson 20 hours ago

    Joker aka jack Napier from batman

  • Allyson brunette

    holy musical b@man!

  • Braken2ker
    Braken2ker Day ago

    Nightwing also uses a staff when he connects his batons

  • Katie kat
    Katie kat Day ago

    BEE AND PUPPY CAT YESSSSS

  • #Ducksareawesome1 1

    Hey why do I have a different film in my country? I wanna see them good scenes

  • gaming sniper cat

    Says that it's a movie we cant take the actors ages into account as they are acting: proceeds to take the jokers age based on not just someone acting him but someone acting someone he is based on.

  • Birdy Police
    Birdy Police 2 days ago +1

    It's okay for the spoiler

  • guri singh
    guri singh 2 days ago

    I can't believe you didn't give a spoiler alert. Your so dumb 😒😤 his parents are dead you have got to be kidding me 💀😡😡Bruce has no mom or dad 😞😔😢☹️😡👿

  • TortoRacoon
    TortoRacoon 2 days ago

    Dick Grayson also used a Staff while being a Robin, also he uses it in the Teen Titans

  • John Taopa
    John Taopa 3 days ago

    Amanda waller is also in the green arrow series

  • Gamer Raid
    Gamer Raid 3 days ago

    0:53 the best joker of all time

  • Marcus Honeybourne
    Marcus Honeybourne 3 days ago

    rip film theory from bat man

  • Vansh Ahuja
    Vansh Ahuja 3 days ago

    Debunked suicide squad confirmed harley killed him wathc it again

  • wyatt levy
    wyatt levy 4 days ago

    5 Robins 5th Damien Wayne 4th Stephanie brown

  • The Procrastination
    The Procrastination 6 days ago

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    or maybe not

  • reece paul
    reece paul 6 days ago

    Here is a new thereory is bill cipher a nacho

  • Claude Jones
    Claude Jones 6 days ago

    Rip in peace.

  • Rigby
    Rigby 7 days ago

    Holy lonely pony eating macaroni poptart in a pizza box

  • Xenoblaze9 The Angels

    MatPat is bad at hunger games confirmed

  • Raygan Hagee
    Raygan Hagee 7 days ago

    WORKS WELL

  • nitroglitch45
    nitroglitch45 7 days ago

    Lol, the only flaw in this theory is that the people in charge of DC movies would never be able to imagine something this cool.

  • Zombie Rob
    Zombie Rob 7 days ago

    10:12 F*** you ruined batman for me for ever.

  • Alphus Pathrose
    Alphus Pathrose 7 days ago

    Hey Harley came before Tim, right and why would Harley be in love with Tim because he is not the original joker.

  • Creeper Explodesion
    Creeper Explodesion 8 days ago

    the third Robin aka joker made harley. kill Richard Grayson

  • kirby superstar
    kirby superstar 8 days ago

    11:29 I feel like the best image to express the outrage of fans at that line is the meme of the skeleton throwing his hands up

  • Aaron Tabaog
    Aaron Tabaog 8 days ago

    Robin is born in a circus

  • Mr. Bear
    Mr. Bear 8 days ago

    I went to VRV but it says ten dollars a month so yeah

  • spiralniral
    spiralniral 9 days ago

    Robin dick grayson? or Robin Jason? Just found out nvm

  • Cengiz Wayan Kan
    Cengiz Wayan Kan 9 days ago +2

    I have a theory: Batman is actually Peter Parker

    • Winter Schnee
      Winter Schnee 8 days ago +1

      I need pictures.

      Pictures of SPIDE...ahem...BATMAN!

    • G&N
      G&N 9 days ago +1

      Pretty solid theory if I do say so myself

  • Marcella Billingsley
    Marcella Billingsley 10 days ago

    Completely forgot about Jimmy Olsen

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    Dominic Vinson 10 days ago

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  • Kiitsune
    Kiitsune 10 days ago

    The reason why Robin makes up all those catchphrases is because he doesn’t want to say “Holy shit Batman” or “Holy crap”!

  • Grenison DT
    Grenison DT 10 days ago

    Now i feel bad for the robins, incliding the one that was reprogrammed.

  • KawaiiceCreamPlayz
    KawaiiceCreamPlayz 10 days ago

    ladie's and gentlemen,we got'em.

  • Silvermist The Hegdehog

    Matpat are you okay?

  • go pro
    go pro 11 days ago

    Dick is't dead because off titans

  • Gracee Freeman
    Gracee Freeman 12 days ago

    Omg I love bee and puppycat

  • Spiritcat208
    Spiritcat208 12 days ago

    At the end:
    *F R E E that spells FREE*

  • Spiritcat208
    Spiritcat208 12 days ago +2

    I feel so bad for Robin now...
    *And my brain hurts.*

  • Joseph Cirrincone
    Joseph Cirrincone 12 days ago

    I didn't know that you knew about RWBY MatPat do you actually watch it?

  • MicroRosh
    MicroRosh 12 days ago

    jason todd is red hood

  • Jermaih Nealy
    Jermaih Nealy 13 days ago

    On the bomb collar

  • Jermaih Nealy
    Jermaih Nealy 13 days ago

    The animated suicide sqaud. Movie had much more of a gory affect where there was more blood shed

  • Oh Yeah Yeah
    Oh Yeah Yeah 14 days ago

    Man I live in New York City don’t b yeah talking it

  • Taliyah The queen
    Taliyah The queen 14 days ago

    You fucking !try hard

  • alicia carter
    alicia carter 14 days ago

    26? Theory: Will Be there a DC v. Marvel studios and anyway he older than marvel studios

  • Kylie Rose
    Kylie Rose 14 days ago

    As a super fan... I wanted to clear up some things.
    1) Jason Todd and The Joker hace matching J’s because of how The Joker murdered him.
    2) There are 5 Robins. Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, and Damian Wayne. If you want to get picky, there are 6 if you count Carrie Kelley, but she’s not cannon.
    3) Yes, Tim Drake was brain washed and turned into a literal clone of the Joker known as Joker Junior. BUT, Tim Drake was brought back into the Bat Family way before Suicide Squad came out and became the hero known as Red Robin when Stephanie Brown, the 4th Robin, took his place.

  • moody ali
    moody ali 14 days ago

    How can he remember she wiped his memory

  • BetterThanChocolat1
    BetterThanChocolat1 15 days ago +1

    At 5:06 is a joker family

  • Natalie Godinez
    Natalie Godinez 15 days ago +2

    Is it weird how my school is doing a original play and Robin (I'm playing as him) tries to join the Legion of Doom. 😂😂😂 I really find that weird XD

  • Jack penguin-EnoshimaTM

    wait!When Robin got beat he had bare feet don't ask how ik I just pay attention to everything and also in the suicide squad poster joker has bare feet coincidence!!!

  • Randy Begay
    Randy Begay 15 days ago

    Thanks

  • Evrythang U Want
    Evrythang U Want 15 days ago

    Suicide Squad is my fav movie, but I watched it AFTER they deleted my fav scene and the backstory of. Joker scene... URGGGG

  • Kawaii Dog 46
    Kawaii Dog 46 15 days ago +1

    Kill me now!!!!
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • slogoclaus G
    slogoclaus G 16 days ago

    In sucide squad it says in harley orgins the death of robin joker cant be tim drake jason has to die first

  • My Name
    My Name 16 days ago

    Am i the only when i saw Robin beaten up got Jason Todd vibes

  • The Moist But Droopy Long Crotch

    That director ruined dc

  • YoungAymanYt
    YoungAymanYt 16 days ago

    what about Damian Wayne

  • Noah Talbot
    Noah Talbot 17 days ago +2

    at least joker was in more of the movie then slipknot

  • random YouTuber
    random YouTuber 17 days ago

    Batman is under arrest for robin abuse

  • zachifdu 07
    zachifdu 07 17 days ago

    Who's watching this in 2019

    READ MORE

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    Same intro for over a year, awesome

  • Darth Samurai
    Darth Samurai 17 days ago

    Do a theory on the tv show Gotham

  • Thor Odinson
    Thor Odinson 17 days ago

    WHAT ABOUT DAMIAN WAYNE???

  • LeAnn Kennett
    LeAnn Kennett 17 days ago

    The tombstone for Dick Greyson could have been one of those symbolic deals (it’s very common when someone dies and they don’t have a body or at least not enough of one for a burial)
    This fits in with the possibility that Dick was in an explosion or something like that, and the joker died and a devastated Harley Quinn kidnapped an unconscious mid to late teen Dick Greyson. Bruce mistakenly assumes the dead body of the joker is Dick and Joker got away
    Harley then used electric shock therapy to wipe his mind and create the events pictured in Suicide squad! (In one of the animated films that picture an older Dick Greyson as night-wing he does sleep with Harley when she was on the outs with her puddin) it’s not that big of a stretch that she would morph her previous paramour into her deceased lover. (It’s the best of both worlds right?) By the time Bruce discovers what happened it’s too late and the damage was done.

  • Funtime Fredbear
    Funtime Fredbear 18 days ago

    I love adventure time thanks MatPat

  • Master Puppet
    Master Puppet 18 days ago

    Who is watchingn in 2019

  • deadpool man81
    deadpool man81 18 days ago

    Love your Channel keep up the good work

  • joshua anderson
    joshua anderson 18 days ago

    There are 4 robins

  • Emery Amon
    Emery Amon 20 days ago

    The Project Cadmus symbol looks like spider mans face

  • Austin Directo
    Austin Directo 21 day ago

    Matches up with the new Joker movie in 2019.

  • Hannah is a human
    Hannah is a human 21 day ago +5

    This might also explain why Harley doesn’t get abused in the suicide squad movie
    The new generation of joker was brainwashed but he didn’t have as hard as a hatred for her like the first generation
    So this could explain more since their relationship isn’t as toxic as the original Joker



    I have no idea if any of this makes any sense

  • L.Sneed
    L.Sneed 21 day ago

    This has got to be the most retard driven channel on youtube. And what's with people pretending to be big jimmy olsen fanatics?

  • Lisa Williams
    Lisa Williams 21 day ago

    I guess jason rode the smiler

  • Edscratch23469
    Edscratch23469 21 day ago +1

    Could Joaquin Phoenix's Joker be the original Joker before Robin? maybe his movie will Explain what happened to the original Joker and how Robin became the new one?

    • Edscratch23469
      Edscratch23469 21 day ago +1

      that"s my theory anyways...probably wrong...

  • pickle jar
    pickle jar 22 days ago

    What happens to terry whites robin and also 2:05 it’s just something they did for fun dc did as a little joke and they even announced it in 2019 but ....... oh wait you didn’t live in 2019 at this time

  • Mister J
    Mister J 22 days ago

    Hmmmm, I have no memory of it, but it's obviously a joke, right. I mean ME, The Clown Prince of Crime, working with The Bat, even thinking about it puts a frown on my face.

  • spacelord Baez
    spacelord Baez 22 days ago

    Your theory got destroyed:your using comics to make your theory and the problem is joker age didnt change meaning that the joker gas from his death can turn someone els into the joker this information comes from the batman how laughs

  • Gabe Olson
    Gabe Olson 22 days ago

    Im not jimmy olsen good

  • Long Trinh
    Long Trinh 22 days ago

    i knew there was smthing odd about that joker brainwashing scene

  • Deathadder 6800
    Deathadder 6800 22 days ago

    Joker is imortal, joker is an idea that lives hidden within everyone

  • Yash Playz Offical
    Yash Playz Offical 22 days ago

    This theory might be debunked again because of flash point

  • Sour Icky Tv
    Sour Icky Tv 22 days ago

    MAN........you make my head hurt

  • Willow Pehringer
    Willow Pehringer 23 days ago

    How dare you I love Suicide Squad! I don't agree with you personally when you say make Suicide Squad better to watch. I hated Batman vs Superman tho, so I get that.

  • S.sharpedo and A.metagross

    10:55 I thought it was Harvey dent

  • Jc anims
    Jc anims 23 days ago

    This theroy happened but it was different robin turned to toby

  • Trevin Wiest
    Trevin Wiest 24 days ago

    Nananananananana BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy amazing theme song Batman. Did I do it? SIGHHHHH one day.😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • TurboWarrior
    TurboWarrior 24 days ago

    There are four robins. There’s another one

  • Dumb Comix
    Dumb Comix 24 days ago

    Whose watching in 2019?

  • Shadow
    Shadow 25 days ago

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  • Screen changer
    Screen changer 25 days ago

    Who's else is watching in 999999999999999999999999976

  • Khaled Omar
    Khaled Omar 25 days ago

    Batman is evel

  • beba micou
    beba micou 25 days ago

    This would be the only theory that would save suicide squad for me...I hated it for so many reasons and lack of joker was one of them.. also dont like baffleck...