Bohemian Rhapsody's Terrible Editing - A Breakdown

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    John Ottman. Editor of Bohemian Rhapsody Responds: usclip.net/video/qy35ZJcxIg8/video.html
    Bohemian Rhapsody won the Oscar for Best Editing... but it has terrible editing.
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  • Thomas Flight
    Thomas Flight  2 months ago +49

    John Ottman Editor of Bohemian Rhapsody Responds: usclip.net/video/qy35ZJcxIg8/video.html

    • Adam Baldwin
      Adam Baldwin Month ago +4

      @Powderwombat Frankly, I don't give a crap about awards because I've seen way too many bad movies receive them. As to why we're talking about this scene, well it's the subject of the video, that's why.

    • Powderwombat
      Powderwombat Month ago +2

      ​@Adam Baldwin It's one scene out of an entire movie... why is everyone so obsessed with this scene? Why not break down some of the good editing like the Live Aid scene. It's like people who never watched the whole movie think the whole thing has terrible editing based on this one scene that everyone keeps obsessing about. It won best editing which is voted on by professional film editors.

    • Adam Baldwin
      Adam Baldwin 2 months ago +6

      While I do think Ottman was being genuine in his response and his account of how "the scene" came to be, watching this again just reinforces how bad the editing is, and while it does appear to be shot fairly poorly, you nicely demonstrated how the scene can be improved using the existing footage. Ironically, Ottman claims the need to cut it down as one of the reasons for the terrible editing, and yet in order to make the scene better, you cut it down even further. I'm going to chop this up to tunnel vision on his part, as he was probably staring at this footage for hundreds by the time he was done with this scene.

      The cinematography is quite bizarre and rather bad, though. The extremely wide shot thrown in the middle, why did they even film that? It's as if you're filming a several minute-long scene that either starts or ends with a wide shot, but the characters in the shot are all doing things mid-scene.

      I would love to give Ottman the benefit of the doubt, and I do give him credit for taking responsibility for his editing, but there's no way around it, this scene was a major blunder. And while circumstances and studio pressure no doubt made things difficult, isn't that why you get paid to do the job? I think other editors encounter similar situations all the time, and the truly great ones rise above those problems and get the job done. I really don't mean to be judging Ottman, but I think he could have and should have done a better job.

  • A MH
    A MH 2 days ago

    Wow.. burn🔥

  • Thaplaya 2000
    Thaplaya 2000 3 days ago

    Overall, i found this movie to be okay, the soundtrack is to me the best part of the film and the live aid concert near the end was awesome. But this film has problems like the aforementioned editing so many quick shots!

  • Li Hua
    Li Hua 3 days ago

    oscars are bought, news to anybody???

  • Julie Cain
    Julie Cain 4 days ago

    Most "Regular people" do not care. Most people enjoyed the movie and don't have a clue about what what your getting hysterical about.

  • Wrecker DeeZ
    Wrecker DeeZ 4 days ago

    "And youuuu! must be Freddy Mercury... You're a big guy!"

  • Nate DS
    Nate DS 5 days ago

    This like the oposite of a movie like dunkirk or whiplash, or the social network which have perfect editing(notice all of these won best editing) this wpuld be like if alex cross won best editing

  • entertain7us14
    entertain7us14 6 days ago

    Watching that scene multiple times literally gives me motion sickness

  • John Angel
    John Angel 8 days ago

    i completely agree, i remember feeling weird about some of the cuts, they felt unnecessary, almost amateur like

  • SomeOneOnline
    SomeOneOnline 10 days ago

    While rewatching the movie. My eyes started to hurt.

  • Jon Dunmore
    Jon Dunmore 13 days ago

    It won the award for Best Editing for the same reason every other category wins for their respective movies - BASTARDLY MARKETING, not "actually" being the "best" in their category.
    Fuck fairness.

  • Walt Kowalski
    Walt Kowalski 13 days ago

    this actor don't fit in

  • Max Isola
    Max Isola 15 days ago

    The only case where it is both noticeable and good is that of Edgar Wright. All of his movies are masterclasses in quality editing.

  • Gaming Reese's
    Gaming Reese's 15 days ago

    Who honestly cares

  • zoe
    zoe 17 days ago

    I think the movie just won so many oscars because everyone loves queen, everyone loves freddy and it just played well into people’s emotions. The cinematography isn’t that great but I guess everyone’s judgement was clouded from Rami’s pretty good embodiment of Freddy and the exciting scenes such as Live Aid in the end

  • Daniel Vetter
    Daniel Vetter 17 days ago +1

    If we wanted real good editing, just give it to Rocketman. That movie deserved the hype they wasted on this movie (don’t get me wrong though, I love Queen and their acting in this)

  • elijahp
    elijahp 17 days ago +2

    I have a neurological disorder called sensory processing disorder, which impacts how my brain processes sound, touch, visuals, etc. My brain can’t process the visual information as fast as I’m seeing it, which can make everything look like a blur. And holy FUCK, I almost passed out during this stupid fucking film, just because of the jump cuts! I shouldn’t be having the equivalent to petite mal seizures during a biopic. Rocketman was really superior in every aspect.

  • Phillip Calvin McGraw
    Phillip Calvin McGraw 18 days ago

    Not an excuse,but the remaining band members would only agree to give the movie rights if all of them had equal screentime to Freddie

  • Max Cuthbert
    Max Cuthbert 18 days ago

    Why did this film win awards? I'm as stumped as you.I'm an original Quen fan from 1975 and I suspected it wouldn't be filmed right.I resisted paying to see it and waited until it came on HBO,which I get anyway. I have to concur with much of what the presenter here says and only add,in an age when they can mimic all sorts of phenomina on screen with the use of CGI,you'd think they could get the wigs to look right on a film that must have had a reasonable budget !The dialogue was crap with no rhythm to it ,the clothes were wrong and worst of all,it didn't really convey a sense of the '70s-or for that matter even the 80s .All in all,a confusing mess. Freddie Mercury deserved much better.

  • Rip
    Rip 21 day ago

    I’m gonna go into epileptic shock because how fast the editing is .

  • MAGGIE
    MAGGIE 23 days ago

    Bruhh stfu this movie is better than any movie u can make😒

  • Gamemaster 365 6
    Gamemaster 365 6 23 days ago

    I really don't see what the big deal is that was a good movie and the editing was the way it should be I believe you can't criticize something that you haven't even done yourself

  • Bring Back That Retro Rhapsody

    These comments are hurting me :,( 😂

  • Reginald Bigley
    Reginald Bigley 26 days ago

    Pace this SHUT YOUR PISS FLAP AND WATCH THE MOVIE

  • Grace
    Grace 28 days ago

    I've never seen the film but I think that the editing in that scene is bad because it shows someone speaking and then the other persons reaction, rather than the persons face as the other one is talking. The audience show trust the actors enough to know the voice and tone of a character rather than having to flick between their faces to show reactions.

  • Tony Persson
    Tony Persson 28 days ago

    Go and make a movie if u are so Good at it

  • Dennis Nyh
    Dennis Nyh 29 days ago +1

    I wanted to watch this film, but when I tried, I couldn't make it far - the editing kept drawing me out of the story. It left me confused and feeling oddly stressed out, even in scenes that didn't call for me feeling that way.

  • rolling stone
    rolling stone 29 days ago

    It's great that this movie draw attention to Freddie, especially the attention of younger people that might have not known about him, but the editing, the storytelling, the dialogue were just mediocre. Malek's performance was the only thing worth praising about this movie. Otherwise it's just a subpar flick.

  • rolling stone
    rolling stone 29 days ago

    Rami Malek's performance is great, the movie itself being nominated for the Oscars is ultimate proof that the Oscars are irrelevant shit

  • Sand Box
    Sand Box 29 days ago

    also is rami malek cgi’d? he looks super weird and i can’t put my finger on it

    • Payton Kienle
      Payton Kienle 29 days ago +1

      Probably the makeup and lighting combination, if I’m following what you’re referring to

  • holly grenoble
    holly grenoble 29 days ago +3

    Hey I think the movie was a wonderful tribute to Freddie.... it is one of my favorite movies of all time!!!! Pure perfection!!!!

    • Morten Aanstad
      Morten Aanstad 24 days ago

      Pure perfection? You can't have watched many movies

  • ArlanKels
    ArlanKels 29 days ago

    I was watching Tremors the other day and there's one sequence about halfway through where they're riding horses and galloping.
    And as the one cut starts they're shown galloping away from the camera, and in one corner of the visible scene is a concrete ditch.
    Then they go to the "Getting tossed off the horses", and then they show them running again.
    And you're spatially aware they're running back where they came from. And then you see the ditch coming and your brain clicks and understands.

    It was such good editing in such a lesser known movie, but now that I've started watching all these "Bad editing" stuff I'm way more aware of good editing versus bad editing.
    So yay for you~

  • chan1150
    chan1150 Month ago +2

    I was kinda with you until you showed your simplified take on the scene. You just make it so much more boring and sterile. You removed the motivation for Brian looking at his bandmates. He was looking at what suit guy was looking at and now it's just general him looking around for no reason. I think by analyzing the cuts so deeply you come to the conclusion that there's a "correct" way to edit any given footage, which leads to bland editing. Someone's attention is grabbed by something? Cut to what they're looking at. Someone starts speaking? Cut to a close up of them. The rapid meaningless cuts might not be the "correct" way to edit the scene but it manipulates the audiences attention in deliberate ways.

    Then again I watched the movie without being bothered by the editing. If it took you out of the movie as your watching it then you have good reason to analyze and critic it as you are. Especially if it's supposed to be the best of the year.

  • BaconMan
    BaconMan Month ago

    A failure at basic eyeline cuts should not be oscar worthy. I enjoyed the movie but an oscar is disrespectful.

  • General Oddity
    General Oddity Month ago

    I'd like to see you so better x

  • Saiene Lun
    Saiene Lun Month ago

    This video made me realize that each scene of dialogue on this movie have a rythm. On the Original Scene that he shows, there is a 1-2-1-2-1-1 tempo. I mean, I may be high, but now that whole thing makes sense to me. The movie has a rythm just like a song, and the editing its like an orchestra!

  • Matt Boothman
    Matt Boothman Month ago +1

    Christ, this is a boring video. No idea why Ottman bothered responded to it.

  • Steven Terry
    Steven Terry Month ago

    Is it just me or do others feel sick when they're a lot of quick cuts in a scene. Like movie motion sickness

  • Stuart Lawson Beattie
    Stuart Lawson Beattie Month ago +1

    My God, you are as crass as the movie.
    You slag the movie off and then you demonstrate issues by using cartoons and other films.
    What a crock of robotic thunderously boring mono syllabic nonsense, how in hell did you get 49,000 likes?
    Sheet, that's a shipload of drugs you are on.

  • Jason Gibson
    Jason Gibson Month ago

    Buddy. Get a fucking life. Top movie,. I was at the premiere in Wembley and not one single soul had any issue with editing. Loser!

  • Gabriyel Mastrianna
    Gabriyel Mastrianna Month ago +1

    academy awards are a joke at this point, everybody knows that

  • 67maxfield
    67maxfield Month ago

    No offense to this guy or the matter at hand, or anyone who’s concerned with said matter, but this is thee most pointless video i’ve ever watched on youtube. Like who gives a F. I got an eye for terrible shit, but this wasn’t even on my radar at all. Also not a huge fan of the movie. In fact, what should be criticized is Rami’s Freddie. Watch Fred’s interviews. They melodramatized thee living shit out of em. Thats the worst part of the movie imo

  • Kyle Campbell
    Kyle Campbell Month ago

    The Oscars are no longer respectable

    Disney scams the whole thing, the judges don't even watch the movie they are selecting. The whole thing lost its touch.

  • SuperRicket
    SuperRicket Month ago +1

    rumor has it that all band members had to have equal time on screen. that could be tough to edit.

  • sammiety
    sammiety Month ago

    ngl, a lot of the dialogue scenes gave me headaches :')

  • ThePumpdog99
    ThePumpdog99 Month ago +1

    While the editing may have been a mess, the movie itself was like watching a sped up A&E Biography on Queen. It lightly touched on many, many subjects, but never completely told the story. The actors were great but the writing/script/direction was off. This was an R rated story made into a PG film

  • Andrewo Mennah ☣
    Andrewo Mennah ☣ Month ago +1

    Probably it won best editing just for the Live Aid scene, but it was mostly because of Malek, he did a really good job.

  • Jovis
    Jovis Month ago +1

    yeah I agree editing and transitioning between scenes is bad IMO

  • Mostafa Ahmed
    Mostafa Ahmed Month ago

    The movie is gre at

  • Rover Waters
    Rover Waters Month ago

    Bohemian Rhapsody guitar solo was written by Brian May

  • IndieVisualSophie
    IndieVisualSophie Month ago

    Someone told me that sound editing and film editing are similar. If you don’t notice it whilst watching the film, then it’s good.

  • Pranav Mistry
    Pranav Mistry Month ago +1

    There are no set rules for a good edit. Rules are a trap and it restricts you. The only thing that matters is sticking to the story and the characters in it.
    You cannot question an editors decision unless and until you were in that room.

    • Darkrider6970
      Darkrider6970 Month ago +2

      This youtuber has no clue what he is talking about but presents with a convincing, authoritative tone. He is mostly criticizing stylistic/artistic choices against his own dogmatic standards. There is a reason why Bohemian Rhapsody won the American Cinema Editor's award (voted on my film editors)...some of the scenes in the movie (production of Bohemian Rhapsody, Live Aid Concert) are actually masterclasses in film editing.

  • Robert Bracey
    Robert Bracey Month ago +1

    A little knowledge can be dangerous. Your recut does not work very well at all because it fails to deliver what the original did - the original makes the audience increasingly uncomfortable, especially contrasted with the long tracking shot that opens the scene. An audience not familiar with editing will share the feeling of the band, feeling uncomfortable and off-balance, in fact you get this effect if you watch the scene without sound. Knowing something about editing causes you to think it is 'wrong' because it does not conform to basic guidelines. Whether it deserved an Oscar is hard to tell but there is a clear purpose to the editing of this scene.

  • Daniel Mims
    Daniel Mims Month ago

    I didn't like this movie at all. I wanting Sacha Baron Cohen and the more truthful movie he wanted to make . Cohen looks alot like Freddie and is British . Malek is really good and did good in the role but what could've been..

  • Aiden G
    Aiden G Month ago

    Might as well just put the camera on a stick and spin it.

  • rome8180
    rome8180 Month ago

    Seems to me this scene suffers from a lot of problems. Uninteresting cinematography and uninspired screenplay are just as significant to me as the editing. And those three things are probably interconnected. If a scene doesn't have a clear sense of purpose and tone, I imagine it's hard to edit it.

  • TheaterPup
    TheaterPup Month ago +1

    Yes, it did win. Deal with it.

  • Donald James
    Donald James Month ago

    don’t have to specify on editing, the movie is entirely terrible

  • lil fuckin party city clearance section palette

    This is some Catwoman-level editing. And we all know how that one was received...

  • phaederkiel
    phaederkiel Month ago

    Sorry, but i have to disagree with your recut. I think the original is better.
    I have not seen the movie,all of what i have seen is what you show here. Yet I feel that the nervousness that shows through the second shot of Brian before the two other men are shown is very well expressed in the shot. Everybody needs to look their best, and he checks on them if they are looking good, which we see even before they are shown.
    I agree with most of the other things you say. The editing is surely flashy, possibly overly so.
    The shot of three members without Brian could be rooted in the story, though. On one hand, the scene seems to be filmed somewhat from his angle (commenting on mercurys choice of dress, looking if the other guys look good), on the other hand: I would, not knowing anything about the history of queen, surmise that this character gets thrown out of the band in the movie.
    These three guys are queen, the take seems to say.

  • Powderwombat
    Powderwombat Month ago +2

    You are talking about one 90 second scene out of an entire movie. Why not break down some of the good editing like the Live Aid scene or the bathroom sink transition into tv van satellite. It's like people who never watched the whole movie think the whole thing has terrible editing based on this one scene that everyone keeps obsessing about.

    You're bitching about a 90 second long scene in a movie that's over 2 hours long bro, and claiming "Bohemian Rhapsody has bad editing", meanwhile you describe good editing techniques over footage of Bohemian Rhapsody doing exactly those techniques. What the fuck are you talking about? See the problem isn't really in this analysis, but it's in the presentation such as your stupid video title which is misleading, and idiots who haven't seen the movie or are complete sheep will somehow translate this into thinking the entire movie is this poorly edited. It's not. It won best editing which is voted on by professional film editors who know more about film editing than you do. John Ottman is an oscar winning Hollywood editor and you're a fucking USclipr.

  • FonchCakes
    FonchCakes Month ago

    This is so hard to watch lmao. I almost can't believe the movie actually looks this way.

  • DefinitelyNotaPervert

    I think another issue with the editing of this film is that with the amount of cuts they have, along with the said spatial continuity, it ends up overwhelming the viewers' eyes, and therefore, making them feel tired, dissoriented, and needlessly confused, due to the amount of unnecessary information that's being presented all at once.

  • Satan Lover13
    Satan Lover13 Month ago

    7:22 Your cut is shit the other way is better

  • Enrique
    Enrique Month ago

    At the very least the grading is good

  • Jake Marko
    Jake Marko Month ago

    The Academy responds to lobbying and box office more than quality. Alot like Washington does with donors and special interest.

  • Elmo Jedburgh
    Elmo Jedburgh Month ago

    This Movie Is The Definition Of BULLSHIT

  • Mat Dub
    Mat Dub Month ago +1

    Freddy Mercury was pretty awesome so let's give the movie a lot of awards.

  • Caner Dalgıç
    Caner Dalgıç Month ago

    Bj

  • Gamefreak974
    Gamefreak974 Month ago

    I think he did this smart. Kept interest. Honestly if this was shot normally it’d probably get boring and I’d get lost in the background.

  • anna feretzaki
    anna feretzaki 2 months ago

    Come on you didn't like it!!!!
    It was amazing

  • Theo
    Theo 2 months ago

    Dude such an awesome analysis

  • The Manhands
    The Manhands 2 months ago +1

    Now that I've seen the original along with John Ottman's response, I think it would be really easy for him to be more defensive. This is direct, candid criticism from a USclipR (sarcasm) of a professional who is clearly accomplished. But that doesn't make you wrong. Your changes are an improvement, maybe even objectively. I wish he had acknowledged that. Also, his ad hominem about your voice and speaking style was definitely NOT professsional.

  • Meg ôwô
    Meg ôwô 2 months ago +1

    god the movie was so damn confusing and flip flopping all over the place, fuck it

  • bargh70
    bargh70 2 months ago +1

    I didn't know what I didn't like l about this movie but I had a feeling there was definitely something. Editing. Yep.